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Of course I agree with all of that, why wouldn't I. I don't want to be labelled as someone who just blindly agrees with @Bigga or indeed with anyone else for that matter but I maintain that I can understand his stance of not seeing Biden as the answer even if his stance that Biden and Trump being broadly speaking the same is something that I can't agree with.
Unfortunately, whilst Biden might not be the long term answer, the question of who is the answer is for another day as currently there is no one else, so it's fairly pointless discussing it on a US 2020 election thread where there are only two candidates.
 
The problem is that it's been apparent for at least 2 1/2 years that if Trump stays in power for another term, there will never be a change, or a return to normal.

He has already appointed 217 federal judges. Out of 870.

If he is reelected, that number will top 500. And he's appointing 40 year old fundamental right wing christians who are deemed unsuitable by the American Bar Association.

When that happens, there is no path back to normal. Bigga often talks about how much he hates the neolibs, well guess what, all of those judges are the extreme embodiment of Neoliberalism.

If you care at all about consumer rights, women's rights, LGBT rights, the environment, universal healthcare or anything that Mitch McConnell doesn't personally endorse, you would never question how important it is to get Trump out of office.

If he actually cared about the things he rallies against on this forum, he'd have been supporting anyone but running against Trump for years.

Well, let's get it straight; I DID support someone other than the president.

I did not support a party that voted in sync with its opposition favouring corporations over the citizen and I've been pretty consistent with that POV.

You will find the Dem party have also voted in many of the GOP picks for judges as they did for tax bailouts and COVID relief funds.

Even Biden doesn't oppose the choice for Supreme Court, he's clear as day saying it. His issue is to 'let the people decide' and that's not his choice to make.

The US is where it is with their own unwritten rules of 'honour and decency' and the Dems keep handing over their lunch money every day.

The Dems, you could argue, created and handed the keys over to #45.

They were happy a mad man gave them tax cuts for themselves and their donors.

They're a shit party and complicit in the demise of the US.
 
Well, let's get it straight; I DID support someone other than the president.

I did not support a party that voted in sync with its opposition favouring corporations over the citizen and I've been pretty consistent with that POV.

You will find the Dem party have also voted in many of the GOP picks for judges as they did for tax bailouts and COVID relief funds.

Even Biden doesn't oppose the choice for Supreme Court, he's clear as day saying it. His issue is to 'let the people decide' and that's not his choice to make.

The US is where it is with their own unwritten rules of 'honour and decency' and the Dems keep handing over their lunch money every day.

The Dems, you could argue, created and handed the keys over to #45.

They were happy a mad man gave them tax cuts for themselves and their donors.

They're a shit party and complicit in the demise of the US.
It sounds like you want someone who isn't a millionaire or part of the system to represent you. It's a nice thought that that could happen but you're in for a long wait. They could go the Cuba route if they wanted, I suppose. I mean Castro was one of the people wasn't he? Once?
 
Well, let's get it straight; I DID support someone other than the president.

I did not support a party that voted in sync with its opposition favouring corporations over the citizen and I've been pretty consistent with that POV.

You will find the Dem party have also voted in many of the GOP picks for judges as they did for tax bailouts and COVID relief funds.

Even Biden doesn't oppose the choice for Supreme Court, he's clear as day saying it. His issue is to 'let the people decide' and that's not his choice to make.

The US is where it is with their own unwritten rules of 'honour and decency' and the Dems keep handing over their lunch money every day.

The Dems, you could argue, created and handed the keys over to #45.

They were happy a mad man gave them tax cuts for themselves and their donors.

They're a shit party and complicit in the demise of the US.

You're fucking insane.

What your saying is "Yeah, sure the Republicans and Trump are ransacking the country, killing people and fucking everything up, but the Democrats didn't break longstanding rules to stop them, so really it's all the same".

No! It's not the fucking same!

You live in this fantasy where there's a 3rd powerful party that'll fix everything and throw out both real parties. That party doesn't exist, and sitting around pretending both parties are as bad as each other is literally something the Republicans have spent billions trying to convince people in order to disenfranchise them.
 
If you were being objective about Trump you wouldn't be making up pathetic excuses for him and caveating every condemnation with a "but".

And I didn't mention Biden in my post so I'm not sure why you're mentioning his length of time in public service unless you're defending Trump again. Which you obviously are.

You didn't mention, I did and you were responding to that post.

If you want specific responses to specific points, quote that point specifically and there's no need for a broad response.

Or just put your fingers in your ears.

And you don't find me defending #45 on what he had to say about his tenure. I picked out one point, being objective (cos I can be), and thought he misspoke.

What a second of speech I pick out and your vitriol is out of control?!

Laughable.
 
Unfortunately, whilst Biden might not be the long term answer, the question of who is the answer is for another day as currently there is no one else, so it's fairly pointless discussing it on a US 2020 election thread where there are only two candidates.
The answer is Biden would assemble a properly functioning government with properly equipped and suitable people in the key departments. Not lackies and enablers, but people who would run their departments properly. Restoring legitimacy to the intelligence community would be one way that long term things would improve. The departments at present are just there to process propaganda and that is not what government is about.
 
Unfortunately, whilst Biden might not be the long term answer, the question of who is the answer is for another day as currently there is no one else, so it's fairly pointless discussing it on a US 2020 election thread where there are only two candidates.
I hope that I have made it clear that I agree wholeheartedly with you on this.
 
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