2020 US Elections

[Dax777]

On the issue of Race:

"When you were DA in San Fransisco, when you left office, African Americans were 19 times more likely to be prosecuted for minor drug offenses than Whites and Hispanics. When you were Attorney General if California you increased the disproportionate incarceration of blacks in California. You did nothing on criminal justice reform in California. You didn't lift a finger to pass the first step act on Capitol Hill. The reality is your record speaks for itself..."

For those who don't understand the gravity of this response by Pence, what he is saying is that Kamala Harris at every point in her career, as a DA, as AG, and as a Senator has consistently either made things worse for her African American constituents or offered no help even where others had already done the heavy lifting as it relates to issues that mattered to them.

This was a knock out punch. Granted, it was partly stolen from the Tulsi Gabbard's evisceration of Kamala in the primaries.

This debate was not close. It was a one way beat down. Luckily for her, VP debates don't mean shit :)

 

[Dax777]

I think he has.

Covid that is.



I thought the same as he said it and wanted Harris to call him out.

But she didn't. More evidence of her failures as a debater.

 

[SWP's back]

I think he’ll mostly be remembered for being a ****

And Trump?

 

[SWP's back]

Well, I have no disagreement with the above. My point was that the issue of not conceding has been broached by both sides, so a moderator would probably do best to question both camps about it.

Some believe no one on the Democratic side side have considered not conceding.

That was my point.

Why are you conflating ‘not conceding’ with not ‘committing to the peaceful transition of power’?

They are wildly different things.

 

[SWP's back]

I have no allegiance to positions, just the facts

Ahahahaha

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I do so enjoy posters who got Trump totally fucking wrong because they were either too stubborn or too stupid to use their ears or their eyes . . . and now that it’s too late and all appears lost, they’re too ashamed to recognize what a collection of well-used anal beads they resemble, so instead pretend that — ha ha — they were in on the joke the whole time.

These are exactly the dickheads the rest of us have spent our lives avoiding at every work function, party and other social gathering while at the same time feeling sorry for the poor host who was for some reason forced to invite them.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

On the issue of Race:

"When you were DA in San Fransisco, when you left office, African Americans were 19 times more likely to be prosecuted for minor drug offenses than Whites and Hispanics. When you were Attorney General if California you increased the disproportionate incarceration of blacks in California. You did nothing on criminal justice reform in California. You didn't lift a finger to pass the first step act on Capitol Hill. The reality is your record speaks for itself..."

For those who don't understand the gravity of this response by Pence, what he is saying is that Kamala Harris at every point in her career, as a DA, as AG, and as a Senator has consistently either made things worse for her African American constituents or offered no help even where others had already done the heavy lifting as it relates to issues that mattered to them.

This was a knock out punch. Granted, it was partly stolen from the Tulsi Gabbard's evisceration of Kamala in the primaries.

This debate was not close. It was a one way beat down. Luckily for her, VP debates don't mean shit :)

You DO KNOW that as D.A. she doesn’t arrest people, right?

Her sworn duty was to prosecute legally arrested and arraigned suspects.

Pence is, was, and always will be a milquetoast wallflower with ZERO ACCOMPLISHMENTS to show for either his time in Indiana or Washington DC.

He is a translucent, transparent political robot.

Here’s my favorite picture of him...

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Harris’ jobs last night?

• Don’t give Trump any ammo.
• Don’t come across as the “angry black woman” Pence is going to try to create for you by lying to your face.
• Talk to young people, black people and, more than anything, BE A STRONG WOMAN!

By those measures, she hit it out of the park!

Everyone knew Pence could debate. Sadly, with the Trump anchor around his neck, he was handicapped so badly that it was always going to be an uphill battle. However, I think he did a good job of getting their message out....

BUT

....when he CONTINUED TO TALK OVER THE FEMALE MODERATOR (much like Trump last week) AND TRY TO “DOMINATE THE AIR,” he made the FATAL ERROR of TURNING OFF ALMOST EVERY SUBURBAN WOMAN WHO IS SICK AND TIRED OF BEING TALKED OVER BY OLD WHITE MEN!

You can try to take ingrained misogyny out of the man, but first learned, best remembered in a time of stress! Just couldn’t hide it for 90 minutes and showed his true colors!

Not to worry, though...Mother is still SO PROUD OF HIM!
(That’d be the one person at the debate flaunting the MASK RULES! )

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Thirty years ago the Conservative Party got its head around being led by a lowly grocer's daughter, so why not?

Indeed.

But then America is an ingrained racist country. Built on it and still RIGHT THERE, one atom under the surface, if subsurface at all!

 

[SWP's back]

Trump’s out of his tiny fucking mind:

“The president castigated his own team, declaring that Attorney General William P. Barr would go down in history “as a very sad, sad situation” if he did not indict Democrats like Mr. Biden and former President Barack Obama. He complained that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had not released Hillary Clinton’s emails, saying, “I’m not happy about him for that reason.” And he targeted Christopher A. Wray, the F.B.I. director. “He’s been disappointing,” Mr. Trump said.
“Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes, the greatest political crime in the history of our country, then we’re going to get little satisfaction unless I win and we’ll just have to go, because I won’t forget it,” Mr. Trump said, referring to the investigation into his 2016 campaign ties with Russia. “But these people should be indicted. This was the greatest political crime in the history of our country, and that includes Obama and it includes Biden.”

Mr. Trump has often argued that his political antagonists should be prosecuted, but in this case, he went further by indicating that he had directly pressured Mr. Barr to indict without waiting for more evidence. “He’s got all the information he needs,” the president said. “They want to get more, more, more, they keep getting more. I said, ‘You don’t need any more.’”

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So because he knows he’s about to get twatted in the election, he wants his political opponents indicted on bogus charges. And certain people on this thread, who only care about facts simply ignore it as if it’s normal behaviour and not the ravings of an authoritarian madman.

 

[urban genie]

 

[SWP's back]

Where to start with all those facts?

Fuck me, the master race is alive and well.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Isn't that just because the early vote will be won by Biden, the votes counted on Election Day be won by Trump and the ones announced after be won by Biden?

Seems crazy to concede defeat if either are still in with a chance?

Hang on Al. Are you suggesting that we actually count all the votes before deciding who has won? This way madness lies.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Hang on Al. Are you suggesting that we actually count all the votes before deciding who has won? This way madness lies.

I concede defeat.

 

[DrBlueBob]

I concede defeat.

Lol, so soon?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Lol, so soon?

I didn’t want to count my chickens, let alone any votes.

 

[DrBlueBob]

And Trump?

They are one and the same. He keeps telling us.
As an aside wouldn't that be hilarious if Trump himself were spending so much time on here?

 

[SWP's back]

Hang on Al. Are you suggesting that we actually count all the votes before deciding who has won? This way madness lies.

Pretty slick isn’t it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Pretty slick isn’t it.

There’s no flies on him.

wait...

 

[Bigga]

Trump got in last time based on the celebrity appeal and being seen as different to your average politician- voters went for the entertainment option. They got it... But they also got one of the worst despicable fat racist thick presidents of all time - so they won’t be making that mistake again. Biden’s got this and it will finally give the World a bit of light in what’s been a very dark year.

Well, that's a pretty shitty thing to say of the voter.

He got in because the state of politicians breaking promises and leaving people behind.

He was a 'desperate for change' vote.