Heavy ground at top weight could be the killer tbh .as for the others I’ve not really looked atm .
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2024 Grand National 13th April
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chris85mcfc
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Vanillier for me this year
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He's fucking one.
hilts
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Bollocks, the Grand National has had a lot of jeopardy taken out of it now but Racing is an industry where horses die all over the world every year. However, mostly, they well cared for, live in luxury, well trained, well fed and cared for after retirement.
You’re just ignorant of the facts, saying “horse killing season is with us again” typical no knowledge comment, Horse Racing is an industry that provides employment and adds a lot to the UK economy, without it the horses wouldn’t be bred in the first place, give your head a wobble.
Well I've heard some shite in my life but that is quality. But horses all over ths world, what a tremendous argument against animal cruelty. The economy? Haha fucking hell well that's okay then you daft donk.
hilts
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99% of race horses have probably lived a better and more luxurious life than you . What an absolute weapon !
Yes one cannot imagine the luxury of horse feed a vertically challenged human on your back and being whipped. Do they retire to the Costa del Sol with Winstone?
That is living the dream I agree
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hilts
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What a crock of shit. So if racing didn't exist, horses would go extinct? Horses are inherently wild animals, they are "broken" into money makers by the cunts that run the sport, thus there is nothing natural about making a horse race. Go and educate yourself.
If there is money to be made or a brief high to be gotten out of winning a race then who gives a fuck about an animal. That's the truth but unfortunately people can't admit their shortcomings so a bunch of illogical and laughable excuses get attempted.
You’re ignorant on horse welfare, you were saying it’s horse killing season. I was pointing out it’s a sport and like any sport there’s casualties all year round including human ones, a jockey died in an accident this past week in Australia. It’s a small risk sport.Well I've heard some shite in my life but that is quality. But horses all over ths world, what a tremendous argument against animal cruelty. The economy? Haha fucking hell well that's okay then you daft donk.
It’s not cruelty, these horses generally have some of the best animal welfare in the world. Do you say animal killing season is upon us every day from slaughter houses and farms etc who breed animals for the sole intention of providing humans with food?
You maybe a veggie but if you’re not you would be a proper hypocrite.
Horse Racing is not a cruel sport, a lot of horses are completely happy in their racing environment, if they weren’t they’re big enough to cause a fuss. Visit a racing stable and observe the relationship between a horses groom, trainer, jockey, head lad, owner, etc, it’s brilliant to see. Also when a horse does get killed (and it’s not a common occurrence) the heartbreak is palpable, it’s not something that’s just brushed aside.
Just as in all walks off life there’s an element of danger in everything we do, would you really take away the pleasure and employment of people just to remove the small jeopardy of a horse losing its life? Where would you stop? No boxing because it’s dangerous, no football because players sometimes die from a heart attack on the field, no cricket because someone like Phil Hughes died after being hit by a ball, no mountain climbing, base jumping or parachuting because they’re deemed dangerous sports? And before you say it I know it’s not the horses choice to race but they do generally enjoy it, there’s many a race where a horse will lose its jockey and continue to race even jumping the obstacles, put them in a paddock without racing, they run quite a lot clearly enjoying the environment.
I’ve been to quite a few Racing Stables including Franny Lee’s when he trained at Little Stanneylands, they all look after their horses brilliantly, educate yourself.
Whips are very soft now and they’re restricted on how many times they can be used in a race, again you’re commenting on something you know absolutely fuck all about.Yes one cannot imagine the luxury of horse feed a vertically challenged human on your back and being whipped. Do they retire to the Costa del Sol with Winstone?
That is living the dream I agree
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hilts
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You’re ignorant on horse welfare, you were saying it’s horse killing season. I was pointing out it’s a sport and like any sport there’s casualties all year round including human ones, a jockey died in an accident this past week in Australia. It’s a small risk sport.
It’s not cruelty, these horses generally have some of the best animal welfare in the world. Do you say animal killing season is upon us every day from slaughter houses and farms etc who breed animals for the sole intention of providing humans with food?
You maybe a veggie but if you’re not you would be a proper hypocrite.
Horse Racing is not a cruel sport, a lot of horses are completely happy in their racing environment, if they weren’t they’re big enough to cause a fuss. Visit a racing stable and observe the relationship between a horses groom, trainer, jockey, head lad, owner, etc, it’s brilliant to see. Also when a horse does get killed (and it’s not a common occurrence) the heartbreak is palpable, it’s not something that’s just brushed aside.
Just as in all walks off life there’s an element of danger in everything we do, would you really take away the pleasure and employment of people just to remove the small jeopardy of a horse losing its life? Where would you stop? No boxing because it’s dangerous, no football because players sometimes die from a heart attack on the field, no cricket because someone like Phil Hughes died after being hit by a ball, no mountain climbing, base jumping or parachuting because they’re deemed dangerous sports? And before you say it I know it’s not the horses choice to race but they do generally enjoy it, there’s many a race where a horse will lose its jockey and continue to race even jumping the obstacles, put them in a paddock without racing, they run quite a lot clearly enjoying the environment.
I’ve been to quite a few Racing Stables including Franny Lee’s when he trained at Little Stanneylands, they all look after their horses brilliantly, educate yourself.
1 I'm aware it's a sport pmsl
2 The jockey has a choice
If you can't even understand that basic difference, one even a child could grasp, then I'm sorry it really wasn't worth reading the rest so I didn't. I suggest you move on.
hilts
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Whips are very soft now and they’re restricted on how many times they can be used in a race, again you’re commenting on something you know absolutely fuck all about.
Oh dear