24 Hours In Police Custody

Mr Kobayashi said:
Two petty thieves who saw the motorbike he was advertising as an opportunistic prize.

They never crossed the threshold, he spotted them on a security camera shouted them off from inside the house (without opening door). And then gave chase in his car. Crashed into them and another car was hit by the motorbike.

He also made up a silly bollocks story and insulted the blokes in front of the cops wearing body cams. Comes across as narcissistic and potentially even psychopathic.
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Cheers.
 
As far as I am concerned all habitual criminals should be locked up until such time as they are too old and weak to walk. Then thrown out and put in a tramps' hostel with £5 a week to spend.

I am sick of the system making excuses for scum. Lots of people grow up in shit families in shit housing and go on to live an honest life. In fact, I know of just such a one. She isn't even the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, but from age 16 she has worked hard and supported herself and I am fucking proud to call her my relative when I think what a shit start in life she had.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
I’m sorry but I’m in the minority here. That vigilante got exactly what he deserved.
Playing the big hero and injuring two people. A 4x4 vs a moped is not a fair fight.
He had got them out of his house, neither himself nor his family were in any danger and he chased after them and rammed them with his 2-tonne car.
A proper billy big bollocks who should have got longer. Hopefully he will learn his lesson and not play the superhero in future.
I’d have given him an extra five years for his gross stupidity.
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If the scrotes weren't out terrorising and trying to rob decent hard working families they wouldn't have got injured either. They are pond life who even when injured were still out trying to rob.

I'm not sure he was trying to be the big hero he just got caught up in the moment and at that time probably wasn't sure if they'd actually stolen anything. More a rush of blood and a determination not to let them get away. It wasn't proved I don't think he intentionally rammed them there was some talk they were trying to hit his car with bolt cutters as he pursued them and he lost control.

I did say in an earlier post he didn't come across well at the scene or in interview. Lack of concern or empathy for people you've seriously injured, whatever the circumstances, isn't a good look. Terminating the pregnancy for financial reasons was quite a cold act by both his wife and himself too.

I think he made a massive mistake pursuing the would be robbers. He's lucky he wasn't seriously injured or killed himself. I'm sure he realises that himself now. As tough as it would have been in prison he's alive luckily and he has no one else's death on his conscience.

In conclusion he might have been reckless and stupid in the decision he took that night but the fault lies squarely at the door of the criminals trying to rob his house. If they're not there nothing happens. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and split second decisions under stress can have far reaching consequences as sadly happened here.
 
paulchapo said:
If the scrotes weren't out terrorising and trying to rob decent hard working families they wouldn't have got injured either. They are pond life who even when injured were still out trying to rob.

I'm not sure he was trying to be the big hero he just got caught up in the moment and at that time probably wasn't sure if they'd actually stolen anything. More a rush of blood and a determination not to let them get away. It wasn't proved I don't think he intentionally rammed them there was some talk they were trying to hit his car with bolt cutters as he pursued them and he lost control.

I did say in an earlier post he didn't come across well at the scene or in interview. Lack of concern or empathy for people you've seriously injured, whatever the circumstances, isn't a good look. Terminating the pregnancy for financial reasons was quite a cold act by both his wife and himself too.

I think he made a massive mistake pursuing the would be robbers. He's lucky he wasn't seriously injured or killed himself. I'm sure he realises that himself now. As tough as it would have been in prison he's alive luckily and he has no one else's death on his conscience.

In conclusion he might have been reckless and stupid in the decision he took that night but the fault lies squarely at the door of the criminals trying to rob his house. If they're not there nothing happens. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and split second decisions under stress can have far reaching consequences as sadly happened here.
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I caught this today as my wife was watching on catch up before I went to work, your spot on with basically everything. Those of us lucky enough to go to work to provide for our families don’t deserve pond life trying to take away what isn’t theirs. Theft is theft it’s as simple as that,this will continue and get more and more common the punishment isn’t there . The two low life’s will wear the 200 community hours as a badge.
I can see the emotional side of anyone who gets their house burgled and gets carried away with it . Many have had enough and deserve better from the judicial system.
 
A57 the snake said:
I caught this today as my wife was watching on catch up before I went to work, your spot on with basically everything. Those of us lucky enough to go to work to provide for our families don’t deserve pond life trying to take away what isn’t theirs. Theft is theft it’s as simple as that,this will continue and get more and more common the punishment isn’t there . The two low life’s will wear the 200 community hours as a badge.
I can see the emotional side of anyone who gets their house burgled and gets carried away with it . Many have had enough and deserve better from the judicial system.
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Most of the crimes are committed by the same offenders caught up in a revolving door of prison and crime. They make the choice to be a career criminal because they can't hack having the self discipline to commit to work. Going to prison is just an occupation hazard to them and while they'd obviously rather not be there they prefer it to doing a 9 to 5. The cheeky fuckers even have the audacity to call it grafting. Personally I'd just lock them away for years. If they don't want to live by societies rules then remove them from that society until they do. Mind you there is a lot of money to be made from crime. All the judges, solicitors, barristers, court and prison staff,social workers etcetera so I guess it's profitable to keep the merry go round turning.
 
paulchapo said:
Most of the crimes are committed by the same offenders caught up in a revolving door of prison and crime. They make the choice to be a career criminal because they can't hack having the self discipline to commit to work. Going to prison is just an occupation hazard to them and while they'd obviously rather not be there they prefer it to doing a 9 to 5. The cheeky fuckers even have the audacity to call it grafting. Personally I'd just lock them away for years. If they don't want to live by societies rules then remove them from that society until they do. Mind you there is a lot of money to be made from crime. All the judges, solicitors, barristers, court and prison staff,social workers etcetera so I guess it's profitable to keep the merry go round turning.
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100% Absolutely mate . Common sense again without predigest it’s what the country is lacking.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Had a hard time feeling empathetic to him. Came across as entitled, quite thick and pathetic (the squeaky childish voice, doesn't help) and sad.

The way he described it his wife got an abortion to maintain their current lifestyle and not because of the precarious situation, and he spunked 50k on pleading not guilty for the sake of his ego and entitlement.
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I hope your wife isn't reading the above text, knowing she is wed to a wanker who would NOT defend his family.
 
A57 the snake said:
100% Absolutely mate . Common sense again without predigest it’s what the country is lacking.
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Crime is big business for many, I mean if everyone was a model citizen all those jobs would be lost. I fear with the cost of living crisis more people will be dragged into it, even if it's shoplifting to feed their families. I know with the internet more reports of crime are known now whereas years ago unless it was a big case you'd only hear about local crime. It does feel like we're spiralling out of control as a society though.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
What reason did the fella give for chasing them down in his car? Did the red mist descend and he couldn’t control himself?
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He didn't really give a reason. He couldn't explain his actions in a rational way, and he did admit to that in a way, but the telling thing for me was him saying to the police at the scene just after the incident had occured he misjudged the speed he was travelling at and his brakes failed.

The police engaged the services of a forensic traffic cop who worked out he'd hit the bike with the front of his car. Tell tale signs from his number plate were found on the rear of the bike, his car had mounted the pavement puncturing two tyres which caused him to lose control and slam into the side of a van.

I know this probably isn't a popular opinion, but while he was obviously feeling threatened when he was in his house, the threat had disappeared once the burglars had left, and he wanted some sort of revenge. Why else would he chase after them in his car if that wasn't his motive, and the evidence from the scene confirmed that.

We are all entitled to protect ourselves and our families in the confines of our homes, but once the perceived or actual threat moves outside, that defence changes and normal rules apply.

I didn't have a problem with the guy who knocked the two guys off the bike receiving a prison sentence because the intention of his actions was to hurt them. We've all seen clips of pedestrians being mown down by an enraged car driver because of some disagreement in a night club or wherever, and this was no different. The red mist descended, and he was going to have them.
 
NPBlue said:
He didn't really give a reason. He couldn't explain his actions in a rational way, and he did admit to that in a way, but the telling thing for me was him saying to the police at the scene just after the incident had occured he misjudged the speed he was travelling at and his brakes failed.

The police engaged the services of a forensic traffic cop who worked out he'd hit the bike with the front of his car. Tell tale signs from his number plate were found on the rear of the bike, his car had mounted the pavement puncturing two tyres which caused him to lose control and slam into the side of a van.

I know this probably isn't a popular opinion, but while he was obviously feeling threatened when he was in his house, the threat had disappeared once the burglars had left, and he wanted some sort of revenge. Why else would he chase after them in his car if that wasn't his motive, and the evidence from the scene confirmed that.

We are all entitled to protect ourselves and our families in the confines of our homes, but once the perceived or actual threat moves outside, that defence changes and normal rules apply.

I didn't have a problem with the guy who knocked the two guys off the bike receiving a prison sentence because the intention of his actions was to hurt them. We've all seen clips of pedestrians being mown down by an enraged car driver because of some disagreement in a night club or wherever, and this was no different. The red mist descended, and he was going to have them.
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Some good points and that about sums up what happened. In those minutes he'd had his and his families peace, safety and security threatened by two intruders. When such happens people can and do lose all rational thought. He also didn't know what their intentions were. Most people relate to burglars striking in the early hours of the morning or when a property is empty,not just before 11pm at night. They were trying to break in and had a crowbar and stick. I think that would have heightened his anxiety. He made a huge mistake pursuing them and it could have turned out a lot worse. What if the intruders would have attacked him instead of fleeing? Beaten him with the crowbar or stabbed him? He could be dead. If he'd have killed them he'd be looking at 7-12 years for manslaughter. It also left his wife and kids alone in the house.

It was a tragic incident, not dissimilar to the one punch killers who end up serving time. We can all pass judgment on how we'd react and the right thing to do but when it's you caught up in the incident it all happens so fast and you're consumed with fear and adrenaline and many make the wrong call. I've no doubt one hour after it happened he wished he'd acted differently but of course by then it was too late.
 
PinkFinal said:
When they were lying on those stretchers in the road I was hoping they were crippled for life if not heading for death.
But no, as soon as they were able they were back on the job.
Scum like this are not Robin Hoods they are simply vermin.
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Two of them you say?
 

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paulchapo said:
One was on crutches committing crime again the first chance he got. I'd give them a lethal jab and throw them in a bin.
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What a waste...........no recycling???

Simply put them down Halal style and render them down for burgers or sausages.

Waste not, want not!
 
Jack Slipper is that you?? I thought you'd died, you nearly got that dastardly Biggs deported back to blighty to face justice.
 
I don’t know, I’m happy in general for the law of the land to take precedence when it comes to many crimes. It’s what makes the world a safer place and the average Joe who keeps themselves to themselves, works hard and tries to keep a happy home and family safe deserve protecting.
As it is, there is a world outside those parameters where the thieves, gobshites and chancers have to realise that if you’re going out to take from innocent civilians there may well be a time where you pick the wrong house/person.
The guy might be a prick, might be all sorts of wrong but those two would have been out the next night terrorising others and in some cases ruining lives.
The stats on burglars being arrested are fucking shocking, and those who do get caught receive pitiful sentences for something that can affect people for far longer than those who commited the crime.
It might not be the way to a harmonious world but I’d still see them disappeared and let’s face it, in the circle of life nobody really cares either way.
 
Phil1 said:
I don’t know, I’m happy in general for the law of the land to take precedence when it comes to many crimes. It’s what makes the world a safer place and the average Joe who keeps themselves to themselves, works hard and tries to keep a happy home and family safe deserve protecting.
As it is, there is a world outside those parameters where the thieves, gobshites and chancers have to realise that if you’re going out to take from innocent civilians there may well be a time where you pick the wrong house/person.
The guy might be a prick, might be all sorts of wrong but those two would have been out the next night terrorising others and in some cases ruining lives.
The stats on burglars being arrested are fucking shocking, and those who do get caught receive pitiful sentences for something that can affect people for far longer than those who commited the crime.
It might not be the way to a harmonious world but I’d still see them disappeared and let’s face it, in the circle of life nobody really cares either way.
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It's a really hard call isn't it? Lots of people will often see stories like this and judge the person and say he shouldn't have done xy and z. Like the police and courts, sitting in a safe warm environment it's easy to make that call. In the heat of the moment it's not that easy. These people are out there and have often been offending and running wild from an early age. Many have countless offences to their name. When it's your face they are snarling at when you're out with your wife and kids, or girlfriend, or its your window and door they're trying to come through one dark night, that rational logic often goes out of the window.
 
paulchapo said:
It's a really hard call isn't it? Lots of people will often see stories like this and judge the person and say he shouldn't have done xy and z. Like the police and courts, sitting in a safe warm environment it's easy to make that call. In the heat of the moment it's not that easy. These people are out there and have often been offending and running wild from an early age. Many have countless offences to their name. When it's your face they are snarling at when you're out with your wife and kids, or girlfriend, or its your window and door they're trying to come through one dark night, that rational logic often goes out of the window.
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My philosophy is very simple. Don’t touch civilians. Those who are involved in criminality live and die by the sword and it’s the choice they made when choosing the life they lead…
The Police/emergency services have enough on their plates, so bad people who get done over by other bad people isn’t something where my sympathies lie.
 
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