24 Hours In Police Custody

[NPBlue]

What reason did the fella give for chasing them down in his car? Did the red mist descend and he couldn’t control himself?

He didn't really give a reason. He couldn't explain his actions in a rational way, and he did admit to that in a way, but the telling thing for me was him saying to the police at the scene just after the incident had occured he misjudged the speed he was travelling at and his brakes failed.

The police engaged the services of a forensic traffic cop who worked out he'd hit the bike with the front of his car. Tell tale signs from his number plate were found on the rear of the bike, his car had mounted the pavement puncturing two tyres which caused him to lose control and slam into the side of a van.

I know this probably isn't a popular opinion, but while he was obviously feeling threatened when he was in his house, the threat had disappeared once the burglars had left, and he wanted some sort of revenge. Why else would he chase after them in his car if that wasn't his motive, and the evidence from the scene confirmed that.

We are all entitled to protect ourselves and our families in the confines of our homes, but once the perceived or actual threat moves outside, that defence changes and normal rules apply.

I didn't have a problem with the guy who knocked the two guys off the bike receiving a prison sentence because the intention of his actions was to hurt them. We've all seen clips of pedestrians being mown down by an enraged car driver because of some disagreement in a night club or wherever, and this was no different. The red mist descended, and he was going to have them.

 

[paulchapo]

He didn't really give a reason. He couldn't explain his actions in a rational way, and he did admit to that in a way, but the telling thing for me was him saying to the police at the scene just after the incident had occured he misjudged the speed he was travelling at and his brakes failed.

The police engaged the services of a forensic traffic cop who worked out he'd hit the bike with the front of his car. Tell tale signs from his number plate were found on the rear of the bike, his car had mounted the pavement puncturing two tyres which caused him to lose control and slam into the side of a van.

I know this probably isn't a popular opinion, but while he was obviously feeling threatened when he was in his house, the threat had disappeared once the burglars had left, and he wanted some sort of revenge. Why else would he chase after them in his car if that wasn't his motive, and the evidence from the scene confirmed that.

We are all entitled to protect ourselves and our families in the confines of our homes, but once the perceived or actual threat moves outside, that defence changes and normal rules apply.

I didn't have a problem with the guy who knocked the two guys off the bike receiving a prison sentence because the intention of his actions was to hurt them. We've all seen clips of pedestrians being mown down by an enraged car driver because of some disagreement in a night club or wherever, and this was no different. The red mist descended, and he was going to have them.

Some good points and that about sums up what happened. In those minutes he'd had his and his families peace, safety and security threatened by two intruders. When such happens people can and do lose all rational thought. He also didn't know what their intentions were. Most people relate to burglars striking in the early hours of the morning or when a property is empty,not just before 11pm at night. They were trying to break in and had a crowbar and stick. I think that would have heightened his anxiety. He made a huge mistake pursuing them and it could have turned out a lot worse. What if the intruders would have attacked him instead of fleeing? Beaten him with the crowbar or stabbed him? He could be dead. If he'd have killed them he'd be looking at 7-12 years for manslaughter. It also left his wife and kids alone in the house.

It was a tragic incident, not dissimilar to the one punch killers who end up serving time. We can all pass judgment on how we'd react and the right thing to do but when it's you caught up in the incident it all happens so fast and you're consumed with fear and adrenaline and many make the wrong call. I've no doubt one hour after it happened he wished he'd acted differently but of course by then it was too late.

 

[paulchapo]

A more detailed interview.

'My life was ruined when I chased criminals from my home and ended up in prison'

Adam White, 34, was jailed for running two burglars off the road after they targeted his home in Leighton Buzzard.

www.aol.co.uk

 

[Slipper One]

When they were lying on those stretchers in the road I was hoping they were crippled for life if not heading for death.
But no, as soon as they were able they were back on the job.
Scum like this are not Robin Hoods they are simply vermin.

Two of them you say?

 

[Slipper One]

One was on crutches committing crime again the first chance he got. I'd give them a lethal jab and throw them in a bin.

What a waste...........no recycling???

Simply put them down Halal style and render them down for burgers or sausages.

Waste not, want not!

 

[paulchapo]

Jack Slipper is that you?? I thought you'd died, you nearly got that dastardly Biggs deported back to blighty to face justice.

 

[paulchapo]

 

[Phil1]

I don’t know, I’m happy in general for the law of the land to take precedence when it comes to many crimes. It’s what makes the world a safer place and the average Joe who keeps themselves to themselves, works hard and tries to keep a happy home and family safe deserve protecting.
As it is, there is a world outside those parameters where the thieves, gobshites and chancers have to realise that if you’re going out to take from innocent civilians there may well be a time where you pick the wrong house/person.
The guy might be a prick, might be all sorts of wrong but those two would have been out the next night terrorising others and in some cases ruining lives.
The stats on burglars being arrested are fucking shocking, and those who do get caught receive pitiful sentences for something that can affect people for far longer than those who commited the crime.
It might not be the way to a harmonious world but I’d still see them disappeared and let’s face it, in the circle of life nobody really cares either way.

 

[paulchapo]

I don’t know, I’m happy in general for the law of the land to take precedence when it comes to many crimes. It’s what makes the world a safer place and the average Joe who keeps themselves to themselves, works hard and tries to keep a happy home and family safe deserve protecting.
As it is, there is a world outside those parameters where the thieves, gobshites and chancers have to realise that if you’re going out to take from innocent civilians there may well be a time where you pick the wrong house/person.
The guy might be a prick, might be all sorts of wrong but those two would have been out the next night terrorising others and in some cases ruining lives.
The stats on burglars being arrested are fucking shocking, and those who do get caught receive pitiful sentences for something that can affect people for far longer than those who commited the crime.
It might not be the way to a harmonious world but I’d still see them disappeared and let’s face it, in the circle of life nobody really cares either way.

It's a really hard call isn't it? Lots of people will often see stories like this and judge the person and say he shouldn't have done xy and z. Like the police and courts, sitting in a safe warm environment it's easy to make that call. In the heat of the moment it's not that easy. These people are out there and have often been offending and running wild from an early age. Many have countless offences to their name. When it's your face they are snarling at when you're out with your wife and kids, or girlfriend, or its your window and door they're trying to come through one dark night, that rational logic often goes out of the window.

 

[Phil1]

It's a really hard call isn't it? Lots of people will often see stories like this and judge the person and say he shouldn't have done xy and z. Like the police and courts, sitting in a safe warm environment it's easy to make that call. In the heat of the moment it's not that easy. These people are out there and have often been offending and running wild from an early age. Many have countless offences to their name. When it's your face they are snarling at when you're out with your wife and kids, or girlfriend, or its your window and door they're trying to come through one dark night, that rational logic often goes out of the window.

My philosophy is very simple. Don’t touch civilians. Those who are involved in criminality live and die by the sword and it’s the choice they made when choosing the life they lead…
The Police/emergency services have enough on their plates, so bad people who get done over by other bad people isn’t something where my sympathies lie.