24 Hours In Police Custody

youngbob said:
We had a big disagreement a couple of weeks ago but I'm (mostly) with you on this.

If someone enters a private property with malicious intent then whatever happens to them inside that property, or as a result of their malicious entry onto that property, should be their own personal risk. And the people who own that property should not be held responsible for their actions.
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I think you will find you can protect yourself in your property, however as this bloke did you cannot chase after them. I don’t know if you remember the farmer years ago who got down for shooting a scrote who broke into his house, if he had shot him in his house he would’ve got away with it as he could argue his life was in danger, however, he shot the lad in the back as he was running away, the law deemed the threat had gone and therefore he shouldn’t have shot him and he got sent down.
It’s all well and good in the cold light of day but when you’ve been attacked or threatened and your adrenaline is going I can see why these things happen.
The scrotes shouldn’t be allowed to sue that needs sorting out, in fact a couple of bullets would sort it out, unfortunately they’ll probably end up getting something, whilst that poor lad and his family have lost everything.
 
youngbob said:
We had a big disagreement a couple of weeks ago but I'm (mostly) with you on this.

If someone enters a private property with malicious intent then whatever happens to them inside that property, or as a result of their malicious entry onto that property, should be their own personal risk. And the people who own that property should not be held responsible for their actions.
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Youngbob,

I don’t keep score, so wouldn’t remember a previous spat.

That said, where I live you can protect LIFE, but not PROPERTY, with deadly force. The caveat, of course, is fear for life, which is why I said what I said.

What I described in my post is completely legal HERE and no charges would even be brought.

And, NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE WITHOUT YOUR LAWYER PRESENT!



 
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Blue Maverick said:
I think you will find you can protect yourself in your property, however as this bloke did you cannot chase after them. I don’t know if you remember the farmer years ago who got down for shooting a scrote who broke into his house, if he had shot him in his house he would’ve got away with it as he could argue his life was in danger, however, he shot the lad in the back as he was running away, the law deemed the threat had gone and therefore he shouldn’t have shot him and he got sent down.
It’s all well and good in the cold light of day but when you’ve been attacked or threatened and your adrenaline is going I can see why these things happen.
The scrotes shouldn’t be allowed to sue that needs sorting out, in fact a couple of bullets would sort it out, unfortunately they’ll probably end up getting something, whilst that poor lad and his family have lost everything.
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He was released early tho wasnt he? Tomy martin?
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Youngbob,

I don’t keep score, so wouldn’t remember a previous spat.

That said, where I live you can protect LIFE, but not PROPERTY, with deadly force. The caveat, of course, is fear for life, which is why I said what I said.

What I described in my post is completely legal HERE and no charges would even be brought.

And, NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE WITHOUT YOUR LAWYER PRESENT!



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I can't pass judgement on the case featured in the programme in question. However, I'm grateful for the second of the two YouTube videos in your post which makes fascinating viewing. Not only is it informative but the lecturer deserves his own primetime show!
 
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There is a strong public interest in discouraging vigilantism that involves driving at speed and using your vehicle as a weapon.

Had circumstances been different he could have ended up causing a multi-vehicle collision and seriously injured or killed innocent people.

He made the mistake of taking it personally instead of just realising they are just scummy opportunist thieves and taking a step back and thinking about how much he was risking for the satisfaction of his fragile masculinity.
 
NPBlue said:
Channel 4.

A pair of scrotes with convictions a mile long decided to rob a house while the occupants were inside. They scarpered on a stolen motorbike, one without a helmet on, and the man of the house chased them down in his car and knocked them off, causing them to slam into a parked car, resulting in life changing injuries for them.

One of them hobbled into the police station a few weeks later and claimed he had no recollection of the incident, but he could recall he'd lost a gold chain and a bag containing £100.

Four weeks after their accident, the pair of them were stopped by the police in a car with false number plates. At the police station after their arrest, they told the desk sergeant they had discharged themselves from hospital, and one of them, the one without a crash helmet that suffered a fractured skull, admitted he still had bleeding on his brain, and beacuse of that, shouldn't have been arrested.

The bloke who mowed them down received a 22 month prison term, but the lifelong criminals were spared from prison becuse their injuries would have made their lives too difficult inside.
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What reason did the fella give for chasing them down in his car? Did the red mist descend and he couldn’t control himself?
 
I had a burglar in my house last December.

It did enter my mind what would have happened had I decided to stab him to death, not because he was a threat to me (he legged it without taking anything as soon as he saw me) but because scum like this, despite what their relatives may say about them being loveable cheeky chappies who lit up every room they entered , thoroughly deserve to be erased from the world.
I could have easily hid his thieving corpse in my back and let it rot.

I didn't realise I was so fucked up
 
I’m sorry but I’m in the minority here. That vigilante got exactly what he deserved.
Playing the big hero and injuring two people. A 4x4 vs a moped is not a fair fight.
He had got them out of his house, neither himself nor his family were in any danger and he chased after them and rammed them with his 2-tonne car.
A proper billy big bollocks who should have got longer. Hopefully he will learn his lesson and not play the superhero in future.
I’d have given him an extra five years for his gross stupidity.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
I’m sorry but I’m in the minority here. That vigilante got exactly what he deserved.
Playing the big hero and injuring two people. A 4x4 vs a moped is not a fair fight.
He had got them out of his house, neither himself nor his family were in any danger and he chased after them and rammed them with his 2-tonne car.
A proper billy big bollocks who should have got longer. Hopefully he will learn his lesson and not play the superhero in future.
I’d have given him an extra five years for his gross stupidity.
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Had a hard time feeling empathetic to him. Came across as entitled, quite thick and pathetic (the squeaky childish voice, doesn't help) and sad.

The way he described it his wife got an abortion to maintain their current lifestyle and not because of the precarious situation, and he spunked 50k on pleading not guilty for the sake of his ego and entitlement.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Had a hard time feeling empathetic to him. Came across as entitled, quite thick and pathetic (the squeaky childish voice, doesn't help) and sad.

The way he described it his wife got an abortion to maintain their current lifestyle and not because of the precarious situation, and he spunked 50k on pleading not guilty for the sake of his ego and entitlement.
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Not seen programme so all that may be true. The two blokes would still be on the missing list had they come into my house though.
 
Phil1 said:
Not seen programme so all that may be true. The two blokes would still be on the missing list had they come into my house though.
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And if they come into your house and you come across them IN your house the law provides for you to use reasonable force to defend yourself.
If you then chased after them in your 4x4 and rammed them off the road causing life changing injuries you, like the guy in the programme, would quite correctly find yourself going to the big house.

There’s no winners in this episode. Two young lads got injured and sentenced. Another young lad found out the hard way that vigilantism comes with severe repercussions
 
Kazzydeyna said:
And if they come into your house and you come across them IN your house the law provides for you to use reasonable force to defend yourself.
If you then chased after them in your 4x4 and rammed them off the road causing life changing injuries you, like the guy in the programme, would quite correctly find yourself going to the big house.

There’s no winners in this episode. Two young lads got injured and sentenced. Another young lad found out the hard way that vigilantism comes with severe repercussions
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I accept that vigilantism comes with punishment. Guess we are all made different.
 
Phil1 said:
Not seen programme so all that may be true. The two blokes would still be on the missing list had they come into my house though.
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Two petty thieves who saw the motorbike he was advertising as an opportunistic prize.

They never crossed the threshold, he spotted them on a security camera shouted them off from inside the house (without opening door). And then gave chase in his car. Crashed into them and another car was hit by the motorbike and the 4x4 went under a flatbed truck.

He also made up a silly bollocks story and insulted the blokes in front of the cops wearing body cams. Comes across as narcissistic and potentially even psychopathic.
 
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