24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2023/24

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vanchi said:
some players don’t get the right to be rusty after an injury, others do. are you as surprised as i am? :D

gvardiol’s biggest fan above you says he didn’t have a single good game though, i bet he missed joško during his injury :D

still had 94% pass accuracy
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Do you have views on any other players
You seem obsessed with Gvardiol.
 
vanchi said:
some players don’t get the right to be rusty after an injury, others do. are you as surprised as i am? :D

gvardiol’s biggest fan above you says he didn’t have a single good game though, i bet he missed joško during his injury :D

still had 94% pass accuracy
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2nd time I am posting this today (before the injury ratings). He has just turned 22, at a new club, in a new country, without a pre-season, out of position, and not playing regularly. I just don't get why he gets so much hate. Average today, like most of the team due to all the rotation. Few great things, few bad things. 7 weeks out prior. Good training session today. That's all.
 
Like him and he is definitely a ball playing defender, but he was wasteful tonight, and struggling to get the ball under control at times.

Clearly a bit rusty.

Good to see him get a bit of time as LCB, which is his future for me.
 
Haaland94 said:
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2nd time I am posting this today (before the injury ratings). He has just turned 22, at a new club, in a new country, without a pre-season, out of position, and not playing regularly. I just don't get why he gets so much hate. It's either love him or hate him with him on here. No middle ground. Average today, like most of the team. Few great things, few bad things. 7 weeks out. Good run out. That's all.
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Does he really get hate, or is it more likely that people had really high expectations of him and he hasn’t quite lived up to it so far? We paid a lot of money for arguably the most sought after young defender in world football…people will have strong opinions on how he plays.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Like him and he is definitely a ball playing defender, but he was wasteful tonight, and struggling to get the ball under control at times.

Clearly a bit rusty.

Good to see him get a bit of time as LCB, which is his future for me.
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Will have to improve in quite a few areas IMO in order to become a first choice CB for us. Right now I'd have him behind Ake, Dias, Stones and Akanji at CB and behind Ake at LB. Time is on his side though.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
Does he really get hate, or is it more likely that people had really high expectations of him and he hasn’t quite lived up to it so far? We paid a lot of money for arguably the most sought after young defender in world football…people will have strong opinions on how he plays.
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We paid a lot for his age and potential. The market is all screwed up as well. I think expecting him to become a vocal point of the strongest back 4 in Europe last season was never going to happen. He looks a part when called upon and promising overall. As you said, he was the most sought after young defender in world football. There is a reason for that.
 
Brewster's millions said:
It’s five weeks actually and he’s been training for the past fortnight.

He misplaced a lot of basic passes and looks very casual. I rate him but he needs to cut out the complacency.
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He lacks consistency, IMO. It will come. Regardless, 93.8% passing rate for 97 passes is very good, though. 2/3 long balls. A couple of interceptions. Decent after a long break.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
Will have to improve in quite a few areas IMO in order to become a first choice CB for us. Right now I'd have him behind Ake, Dias, Stones and Akanji at CB and behind Ake at LB. Time is on his side though.
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That last line is his ace in the hole. Shown enough that he’ll be given time.
 
Xhavenjoe said:
Do you have views on any other players
You seem obsessed with Gvardiol.
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erm i’m croatian. you know how you all love foden? he’s my foden, born and raised in zagreb, product of dinamo academy. only we have to sell our players asap. that kid took our national team to the knockout stages of the world cup at just 20 years.

i do have opinions on other players, would you like me to share some or what?

and why do you care anyway? are you the forum police or something?

you’re the guy who shits on kova’s accomplishments any chance you get btw, i did not forget. now you have a problem with me posting about gvardiol? just put me on the ignore list dude, idgaf. i am allowed to post here, i checked the rules before registering.
 
I thought he played well. As others said, there may be a moment or two of mental lapses, but he's got all the tools.
 
I watch him especially when he's defending and you can tell he's going to be a great CH.
I like what Pep is doing with him though and he looked okay on the whole tonight.
I'm glad he's back.
 
Considering how immense Dias and Stones have been he's come in and performed pretty well considering the step up in level and expectation. I thought he was good tonight in a much changed team after injury. You can see his class on the ball and considering his age he is going to be one hell of a player. Stones still had his doubters a few years ago so Gvardiol deserves time.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
Does he really get hate, or is it more likely that people had really high expectations of him and he hasn’t quite lived up to it so far? We paid a lot of money for arguably the most sought after young defender in world football…people will have strong opinions on how he plays.
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erm yes you bought the best young ball playing cb in the world for 90m euros, cca 77,5m pounds, 21 yo with 120m euros release clause for summer 2024 and 4 years left on his contract.

and what happened? he’s basically a winger now. we will NEVER know how good or bad he would be in his primary, natural position.
 
Haaland94 said:
He lacks consistency, IMO. It will come. Regardless, 93.8% passing rate for 97 passes is very good, though. 2/3 long balls. A couple of interceptions. Decent after a long break.
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He lacks consistency because he's still trying to get used to playing as a left back. I think he'll come good next season as a LCB and back up LB. Problem is we haven't got a specialist LB right now which has been a problem for dor several seasons. Hopefully we'll buy an established LB this summer.
 
vanchi said:
erm i’m croatian. you know how you all love foden? he’s my foden, born and raised in zagreb, product of dinamo academy. only we have to sell our players asap. that kid took our national team to the knockout stages of the world cup at just 20 years.

i do have opinions on other players, would you like me to share some or what?

and why do you care anyway? are you the forum police or something?

you’re the guy who shits on kova’s accomplishments any chance you get btw, i did not forget. now you have a problem with me posting about gvardiol? just put me on the ignore list dude, idgaf. i am allowed to post here, i checked the rules before registering.
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I have no problem with you posting about Gvardiol.
And I certainly have no dislike of Kovacic.
I just couldn't get head around why you only seem to comment on Gvardiol.
You've explained it
Post away.
 
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