31 | Ederson - 2022/23 Performances

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Cricket Blue said:
Assist aside I thought he was dreadful today.
Distribution shocking and poor goal to concede yet again.
He doesn't make many saves.
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His distribution hasn’t been as good for a while. I don’t think that’s anything to worry about but his shot stopping remains very average
 
Looks to be carrying an injury. Kept holding his hip. His passing was woeful yesterday.

Not great for the Trossard goal but made a fantastic of save from Trossard… was that at 2-1 n’all? Will have to watch the game back, if so, it was a match winner! So I can let him off with the goal he did let in.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Looks to be carrying an injury. Kept holding his hip. His passing was woeful yesterday.

Not great for the Trossard goal but made a fantastic of save from Trossard… was that at 2-1 n’all? Will have to watch the game back, if so, it was a match winner! So I can let him off with the goal he did let in.
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I'm not as forgiving as you, that was a shocking attempt at what should have been a routine save for their goal if you watch the replay from behind the net. The subsequent save only became vital because of his earlier poor attempt. If he's carrying an injury he shouldn't be playing because it's definitely impacting his performance.
 
I'm a fan of Ederson, he's a good keeper, - fantastic psyche, great with his feet and passing accuracy and he's really exciting to watch.
But do I l know for certain that the strengths of his game outweighs the weaknesses? No.

I mean, - if X is the sum of points he directly or indirectly contributes to (build up, assists), and Y is the sum of points we lost (conceding goals a keeper would be expected to save), would X-Y be a positive or negative number over a full season?
 
Matt the Giant said:
I'm a fan of Ederson, he's a good keeper, - fantastic psyche, great with his feet and passing accuracy and he's really exciting to watch.
But do I l know for certain that the strengths of his game outweighs the weaknesses? No.

I mean, - if X is the sum of points he directly or indirectly contributes to (build up, assists), and Y is the sum of points we lost (conceding goals a keeper would be expected to save), would X-Y be a positive or negative number over a full season?
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If you put almost any other keeper in our net, given the way we play they'd contribute towards us losing more points than Ederson does

We need a keeper who can pass the ball like he does, and there is no one else even close to being in his league

For example, If we had Allisson in net, it would be a car crash.
 
Matt the Giant said:
I'm a fan of Ederson, he's a good keeper, - fantastic psyche, great with his feet and passing accuracy and he's really exciting to watch.
But do I l know for certain that the strengths of his game outweighs the weaknesses? No.

I mean, - if X is the sum of points he directly or indirectly contributes to (build up, assists), and Y is the sum of points we lost (conceding goals a keeper would be expected to save), would X-Y be a positive or negative number over a full season?
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Positive because the whole teams game depends on his calmness and passing ability. And even if not directly the team playing that way leads to scoring as many as we do.Very few could provide it in the way he does. There may be a handful of saves every season others might make ,he doesn’t. Not as many as you would think reading this thread though. So yes it’s positive by a long way.
 
Matt the Giant said:
I'm a fan of Ederson, he's a good keeper, - fantastic psyche, great with his feet and passing accuracy and he's really exciting to watch.
But do I l know for certain that the strengths of his game outweighs the weaknesses? No.

I mean, - if X is the sum of points he directly or indirectly contributes to (build up, assists), and Y is the sum of points we lost (conceding goals a keeper would be expected to save), would X-Y be a positive or negative number over a full season?
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I'll ask Akanji.
 
chris85mcfc said:
If you put almost any other keeper in our net, given the way we play they'd contribute towards us losing more points than Ederson does

We need a keeper who can pass the ball like he does, and there is no one else even close to being in his league

For example, If we had Allisson in net, it would be a car crash.
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I think there's an element that we've got so used to him being able to do certain things in our system that they appear really basic and routine because he does them all the time but in reality most keepers would regularly shit the bed trying to do these things match after match.

That said yesterday wasn't one of his better games.
 
Probably his most inconsistent passing game in a while, Pep looked visibly frustrated with his passing. Like others have said he might be carrying an injury.

Still comfortably the best keeper for our system though.

MOTD showed his pass for the 1st goal from behind Sanchez's goal, it's ridiculous how good that pass was.
 
MCFC1993 said:
Probably his most inconsistent passing game in a while, Pep looked visibly frustrated with his passing. Like others have said he might be carrying an injury.

Still comfortably the best keeper for our system though.

MOTD showed his pass for the 1st goal from behind Sanchez goal, it's ridiculous how good that pass was.
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His ball to Kevin in the second half was an absolute piss take , outrageous
 
I think yesterday was the most Ederson game ever!

Incredible pass that any player in world football would have been pleased with (and one many couldn’t make) good strong save at 2-1 but beaten way, way too easily for Trossard’s goal.

Ultimately you have to accept the odd shot stopping error for what he gives us in the system, but it is very frustrating as it turned what was a stroll in the park in to a very nervy period in that second half.
 
threespires said:
I think there's an element that we've got so used to him being able to do certain things in our system that they appear really basic and routine because he does them all the time but in reality most keepers would regularly shit the bed trying to do these things match after match.

That said yesterday wasn't one of his better games.
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I don't know if he is carrying an injury but his kicking and distribution has been poor, or should I say not up to his usual standards. for a few games now, obviously apart from his assist yestday, which was outrageous.
 
chris85mcfc said:
If you put almost any other keeper in our net, given the way we play they'd contribute towards us losing more points than Ederson does

We need a keeper who can pass the ball like he does, and there is no one else even close to being in his league

For example, If we had Allisson in net, it would be a car crash.
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Nonsense,Allison would still be very useful in our system.

We'd have a keeper who comfortably saves the Brighton goal,but probably doesn't create Haalands.
 
eastmanc said:
I don't know if he is carrying an injury but his kicking and distribution has been poor, or should I say not up to his usual standards. for a few games now, obviously apart from his assist yestday, which was outrageous.
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The assist wasnt even his best, that was the pass late on out to De Bruyne I think.
Remember when the Brighton player was down after 20 minutes Pep got Ederson and Haaland Bernardo over and changed the tactics to beat the press and man to man with balls over the top. Doubt any keepers can play the short and the long games like Ederson. Thats why he is our number 1. Hiss keeping and sweeping is good enough too, nothing like abad as some like to make out for some odd reason.
 
If he is carrying an injury his kicking will be off , aside from thors aside he was not himself for sure , give him a rest on tuesday , we are through anyway and orteta is good keeper
 
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