47 | Phil Foden - 2022/23

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Phil must be biting his lip in training , when you see a donkey like Henderson get on the pitch before you then you know the manager simply doesnt rate you , he should see out the tournament and if hes doesnt get some starts , tell Waistcoat he doesnt want to be involved in anymore England squads while he is the manager , he would rather go fishing.

Henderson was a good sub, Bellingham was having an absolute nightmare and Henderson coming on immediately got England on top in possession.

The problem was that Kane was playing as a number 10 which left Mount doing nothing and that possession was worthless.

Staying on the bench was the best thing that could have happened to Phil, I don’t think he could have fixed anything because ultimately England’s problem is they have no striker. 0 shots for Kane across 2 games.

If the opposition are really poor at the back, Sterling, Saka, Rashford, Grealish and Foden etc will get chances in the box, but against a well coached back 4 they have no space.
 
And yet, in the knockout bit, he’ll play Walker as a right sided centre half..
And Maguire doesn’t play anywhere for his club……….
And Spain played Rodri at CH!
And, Mount doesn’t play in a 3 at Chelsea.
Safegate knew he fucked up royally, “he doesn’t play there for his club” was just an excuse to hide the fact he has favourites. The commentator said last night he spent 2 hours around Sir Marcus of the school dinner gaff in the summer…
Along with Maguire, Rice, Mount, Saka, Sterling, Kane & Pickford who are constants in his starting line up + Johnny Boulders when fit means the others are playing for the remaining 3 positions and 2 of them are at full back
 
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Kane is basically pointless in a 4231, he likes to drop deep as a striker but there is already a 10 there.

He works well in any 3 up top formation as when he drops the wider players have freedom to come in, either in 343 that he likes at Tottenham or a 433.

England would probably have better luck using Rashford's pace as a striker (never ask him to drop deep), with Grealish and Saka on the wings and Foden operating behind Rashford.
 
I can’t stand Boregate and think Foden’s potential is almost limitless. However, the fact it’s even a debate and he’s not getting in that England team shows his progress has stagnated somewhat.
 
I can’t stand Boregate and think Foden’s potential is almost limitless. However, the fact it’s even a debate and he’s not getting in that England team shows his progress has stagnated somewhat.
I don’t think that stands up against scrutiny when you put his seasons stats alongside the others vying for that position. Not withstanding the fact he’s just fucking better than them all.
 
I don’t think that stands up against scrutiny when you put his seasons stats alongside the others vying for that position. Not withstanding the fact he’s just fucking better than them all.
Don’t disagree he’s better but he’s not been playing particularly well this season on the whole by his standards. Yes his stats are decent though
 
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Don’t disagree he’s better but he’s not been playing particularly well this season on the whole by his standards. Yes his starts are decent though
I only say because I’m in a bar and they’ve just put a side by side comparison in the tv with Foden and the other 4 who could claim that position and he’s still beating them all hands down even after a season where some think he’s not been that great.
 
Phil must be biting his lip in training , when you see a donkey like Henderson get on the pitch before you then you know the manager simply doesnt rate you , he should see out the tournament and if hes doesnt get some starts , tell Waistcoat he doesnt want to be involved in anymore England squads while he is the manager , he would rather go fishing.

I thought Henderson was a good sub and played well when he came on. Henderson coming on has no relation to Phil either - different positions
 
I thought Henderson was a good sub and played well when he came on. Henderson coming on has no relation to Phil either - different positions
The formation/tactics wasnt working , if the Waistcoat had any intention of winning the game he would have put another atttacking option on the pitch , but it appears the managerial genius was happy to scrape a draw against the might USA.
 
I feel like Phil is being set up for failure somewhat with the amount of people telling Southgate how to do his job. He's either going to dig his heels in and not play him against Wales....or he'll chuck him in there and anything less than a Roy Race type performance, he'll be able to say 'I told you so' which the boring twat would relish.

Rock and a hard place for our lad, personally I hope he doesnt play, is fresh and has a big fucking 'point to prove' chip on his shoulder for the restart of the season.
 
I feel like Phil is being set up for failure somewhat with the amount of people telling Southgate how to do his job. He's either going to dig his heels in and not play him against Wales....or he'll chuck him in there and anything less than a Roy Race type performance, he'll be able to say 'I told you so' which the boring twat would relish.

Rock and a hard place for our lad, personally I hope he doesnt play, is fresh and has a big fucking 'point to prove' chip on his shoulder for the restart of the season.

Agree with this and I think a lot of people are missing what the issue is, which to me is Kane. Him dropping deep so much is negating whoever is in that number 10 position, particularly as Sterling/Saka aren’t getting ahead of the line enough either.

If he wants to get the best out of Kane (and I can’t see him ever dropping him so he will), then I’d be playing Phillips or Henderson instead of Mount or Foden. That or tell Kane to stop dropping deep and play on the last line of defence and stay there.

If he doesn’t do the latter, then I think Phil is on a bit of a hiding to nothing if he does play.
 
Foden is capable of beating a man, scoring and showing touches of genius but he aint no Messi or Maradonna going to win a game on his own - at least yet. He is very effective in a team with players around him who understand space and movement. Southgates tactics are about not conceding and scoring on the break rather than playing on the front foot.

TBH, this is a style that borrows from the rags and red scouse that has proved succesful. Unlike Southgate, I cannot see Pep being happy watching centrebacks passing between themselves. Nor a consistently bypassed midfield. KdB commented on the differences between playing for City and Belgium (who do not set up as defensively as England).

The media clamour for Foden has two possible narratives. First "we told you so". Second "Foden is not as good as you think". Phil needs like minded players around him to shine. As an analogy, Pickford would not get into Citys side. He is a good shot stopper with "erratic" distribution. In contrast Ederson would not look good playing for England. Peps sides play to avoid shots on their goal with the goalkeeper also playing an active role as an extra outfield player.

All this shows the mentality of Southgate and the FA with their lack of strategy and never ending incompetence with selecting and persisting with him yet another example.
 
Foden is capable of beating a man, scoring and showing touches of genius but he aint no Messi or Maradonna going to win a game on his own - at least yet. He is very effective in a team with players around him who understand space and movement. Southgates tactics are about not conceding and scoring on the break rather than playing on the front foot.

TBH, this is a style that borrows from the rags and red scouse that has proved succesful. Unlike Southgate, I cannot see Pep being happy watching centrebacks passing between themselves. Nor a consistently bypassed midfield. KdB commented on the differences between playing for City and Belgium (who do not set up as defensively as England).

The media clamour for Foden has two possible narratives. First "we told you so". Second "Foden is not as good as you think". Phil needs like minded players around him to shine. As an analogy, Pickford would not get into Citys side. He is a good shot stopper with "erratic" distribution. In contrast Ederson would not look good playing for England. Peps sides play to avoid shots on their goal with the goalkeeper also playing an active role as an extra outfield player.

All this shows the mentality of Southgate and the FA with their lack of strategy and never ending incompetence with selecting and persisting with him yet another example.

I don’t agree. He has won games on his own and been the standout player plenty of times. Sounds kinda like your saying he’s only good because of others - im probably taking what your saying too literally ..

It’s also very difficult to be stand out player in our team, with how many good players we have
 
I don’t agree. He has won games on his own and been the standout player plenty of times. Sounds kinda like your saying he’s only good because of others - im probably taking what your saying too literally ..

It’s also very difficult to be stand out player in our team, with how many good players we have
Heard that moron Pearce today say Phil “needs to do it on the world stage.” He has been fantastic for us in the CL which is a much higher standard than the WC. Pearce was Englands assistant manager so that says it all
 
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