47 | Phil Foden - 2022/23

[itisrising]

He's just not a winger - a player that has that much technical ability is essentially being used as a runner. His progress will continue to stagnate the longer it's insisted that he has to play out wide.

 

[Goater=Legend]

He's not going to play in midfield if KDB is there. No chance Pep will play both.

 

[applejuice]

Foden won't get any chances on LW in the national team because SG system uses LWB or LB to put in crosses thus the LW must be a right footer to cut inside. That means Sterling Grealish or Mount. IF SG goes, who knows. But I highly doubt that the next manger will build a team with Foden on LW because he is the only left footed English left winger. England manager has to build a system that can make sure 2 or more players can slot in.

The only chance is either #10 or RW. He rarely plays in #10 role and currently Mount Bellingham Grealish all start in front of him in #10 role because they have club experiences in similar positions.

Things are not ideal for him and when Walker and Tripper gradually phase out from national team it will be even more difficult. Less pro-man city voice from dressing room. It is difficult for Phil. But I am happy as long as he can play well for City. You don't need to be a big success in every game.

 

[Cambo]

I have not watched the match. I read an article by Alex Keble (Optus Sport) and it said the following two things about Foden:

"There was a lot to be said for the way Harry Kane, Raheem Sterling and Phil Foden interacted, both in transitional moments...and in applying the first wave of the counter press"

"Still it was Foden's movement and the intelligence of Bellingham, Saka and Mount that brought the best moments of this match".

Was he maybe playing a running/pressing role but because he didn't score or get an assists he was seen to have a poor match?

 

[Craig]

I have not watched the match. I read an article by Alex Keble (Optus Sport) and it said the following two things about Foden:

"There was a lot to be said for the way Harry Kane, Raheem Sterling and Phil Foden interacted, both in transitional moments...and in applying the first wave of the counter press"

"Still it was Foden's movement and the intelligence of Bellingham, Saka and Mount that brought the best moments of this match".

Was he maybe playing a running/pressing role but because he didn't score or get an assists he was seen to have a poor match?

No, he just didn’t do much yet again for England

 

[SWP's back]

Foden won't get any chances on LW in the national team because SG system uses LWB or LB to put in crosses thus the LW must be a right footer to cut inside. That means Sterling Grealish or Mount. IF SG goes, who knows. But I highly doubt that the next manger will build a team with Foden on LW because he is the only left footed English left winger. England manager has to build a system that can make sure 2 or more players can slot in.

The only chance is either #10 or RW. He rarely plays in #10 role and currently Mount Bellingham Grealish all start in front of him in #10 role because they have club experiences in similar positions.

Things are not ideal for him and when Walker and Tripper gradually phase out from national team it will be even more difficult. Less pro-man city voice from dressing room. It is difficult for Phil. But I am happy as long as he can play well for City. You don't need to be a big success in every game.

Southgate will only be there for another few months though.

 

[waspish]

Southgate will only be there for another few months though.

And you can bet if he gets sacked after the World Cup all the media be saying Pep should be manager just when the league is there to win!

 

[SamBlue]

Poor by his own standards in both games. Don’t feel like he’s really got going for us this season either despite having a few goals and assists.

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Southgate came out last night and said with a straight face Phil is not strong enough to play in the MF, or something like that as a reason why he was banished to this nether-position on the right. Yes Einstein, stick a left foot non-winger to that position and then bury him after the game with some stupid comment. To say that about a player who's been playing for Pep's team and who clocked 20+ appearances just in PL for the past three seasons is a proof of his ineptitude. English (and the bunch of 'back-three' managers) just don't know what to do with the players like Foden, he was going through the same shit in U21 team. He'll be like Scholes, totally irrelevant for England.

 

[Shaffer92]

Personally, I prefer to see him closer centrally with freedom to move where he needs to be, something feels off about him when he is in more rigid positions. He should be KdB's successor.

I love Pep and it's hard to question him 99% of the time but I couldn't agree more with you here. The fact he did so well out on the wing at the highest level of professional football despite having no experience out there coming through the academy speaks volumes but I always thought that was going to be temporary. It seems not as Pep clearly doesn't trust him in the middle still after all this time.

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

I thought he was involved in some of England’s best build-up play in the first half, but with Kane playing even further or deeper on occasions, little wonder Foden didn’t create any clear cut chances. Admittedly he crossed too deep when Kane was in the right place on one occasion, but he also found ways through the German defence which others didn’t have the vision to pick up on. Yes after he was subbed England looked more balanced, but only because Southgate brought players on in their natural positions.