47 | Phil Foden - 2022/23

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Going through a relatively lean patch. However these selfish moments, if indeed that’s what they are, can readily be coached out. He must be aware of the intense level of competition for starting places.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Foden is never going to be anywhere near Messi and we might not see anyone at Messi’s level in world football for another quarter of a century, maybe never again.

Messi is the greatest that’s ever played. You can’t compare Foden to him.

If Foden can just improve on his current levels iron out his deficiencies (shooting quality, shot selection, decision making on when to make the right pass) then that’s all we can ask for and we’ll have a cracking player on our hands.
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I think he's had a bad year, but progression is not linear and he had 3 straight years of getting better by the week.

Now he needs to reset and start climbing that mountain to the top again because yesterday was his 100th premier league game, he should be grabing games by the scruff of the neck and controlling them soon.
 
He's getting alot of grief (understandable) because he's performed at such a high level these past couple of years. I can understand why Haaland hasn't received the square ball in these last 2 instances.

Firstly, In previous seasons there wouldn't be anyone quick enough to get to the ball (other than maybe Sterling). Hes also going have to react quickly to look up and pass it when especially last season, shooting at that opportunity was the desired outcome.

It's split decisions and getting out of a habit. It will come with a bit more adjustment.
 
People need to remember a few things:

1. He’s young and it’s normal to drop off once in a while.
2. He played out of position in many games last year.
3. He didn’t play a part in pre-season with the first team.

He’ll be fine in a few weeks.
 
He looks to me as though he is trying too hard to impress. He needs to relax a little bit when in goal scoring positions, to look for the easier option.

It will come and the time might be approaching for him to have a few games in midfield, trouble is who would make way for him
 
He's taking the exact same shot he's done numerous times, Liverpool away last season a prime example, start to worry when he's not getting in these positions, understanding of Haaland will come
 
twosips said:
Except that isn't the frame where the ball leaves his foot. Foden's walloped that, so imagine that backwards, slower and towards Haaland. It absolutely is likely to get cut out. Not sure why so many are refusing to see this...
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The defender makes the attempt as Foden telegraphs the shot with a huge back lift tipping off the defender he’s about to shoot. He wouldn’t need to do that for a 4 yard square ball. Come on mate, you’ve played football (I presume), it’s an infinitely easier ball than beating one of the top keepers in the league from that angle.
 
Am I really seeing people on Foden's back because he's not doing what Messi was done at the same age?

Fucking hell. Messi was, and still is, a once in a lifetime player so to compare anybody to him is obscene.

Phil is absolutely brilliant, to be a starter and not look out of place in arguably the best team the league has ever seen is not easy.
 
twosips said:
Except that isn't the frame where the ball leaves his foot. Foden's walloped that, so imagine that backwards, slower and towards Haaland. It absolutely is likely to get cut out. Not sure why so many are refusing to see this...
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There was a pass on, Pep was going crazy on the sideline and Haaland's look said everything.

Foden needs to look up, something he did so well when he came into the team.
 
Keeper! said:
There was a pass on, Pep was going crazy on the sideline and Haaland's look said everything.

Foden needs to look up, something he did so well when he came into the team.
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Pep's remonstrations from 50 yards away mean absolutely nowt. He can't see every possible angle at every possible second. he's human like the rest of us. Last week he clearly hooked him for not making it, yet this week didn't. I'm pretty certain they would have discussed it at half time and he'd have explained he didn't think the pass was on and you only have to presume he accepted it.
 
twosips said:
Pep's remonstrations from 50 yards away mean absolutely nowt. He can't see every possible angle at every possible second. he's human like the rest of us. Last week he clearly hooked him for not making it, yet this week didn't. I'm pretty certain they would have discussed it at half time and he'd have explained he didn't think the pass was on and you only have to presume he accepted it.
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He had no genuine alternative on the bench with Grealish injured, a crazy game to bring on either Alvarez or Palmer and Mahrez is not the best helping out the FB's.

Still poor vision from Foden, he has stagnated a little in his development in the last 6 months for me.
 
SWP's back said:
The defender makes the attempt as Foden telegraphs the shot with a huge back lift tipping off the defender he’s about to shoot. He wouldn’t need to do that for a 4 yard square ball. Come on mate, you’ve played football (I presume), it’s an infinitely easier ball than beating one of the top keepers in the league from that angle.
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The backlift lasts about half a second. I just don't agree that a pass would be any less easier to read as there are only two outcomes here, a pass or a shot. Both easy to read. The pass requires him to wrap his foot around it. Equally as readable. I get the Bournemouth one but I think people are intensely overreacting to this one due to frustration. And no one was arsed when Foden took that same shot against literally the best keeper in the league in Allison and scored. He's scored plenty from that angle.
 
I was on here slagging off the moaners last week after he didnt pass against Bournemouth. That one yesterday was a more obvious pass than last week when the ball pinged into his path. Not slagging the moaners this week. Not moaning either, but I fucking will be if he does it again ffs ;)
 
twosips said:
The backlift lasts about half a second. I just don't agree that a pass would be any less easier to read as there are only two outcomes here, a pass or a shot. Both easy to read. The pass requires him to wrap his foot around it. Equally as readable. I get the Bournemouth one but I think people are intensely overreacting to this one due to frustration. And no one was arsed when Foden took that same shot against literally the best keeper in the league in Allison and scored. He's scored plenty from that angle.
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Then you’ll have to accept that myself and the majority disagree with you.
 
I thought the vast majority of our problems came from being pressed in midfield and leaving spaces up at the top. Both Bernie and Foden worked hard to get back there, but that gave us fewer options when going forward, especially as both were playing their first 90 minutes. Think it is a bit too easy to get distracted by the square ball and to judge overall performance on that.
 
SWP's back said:
Then you’ll have to accept that myself and the majority disagree with you.
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Ah I had no idea that you spoke for the majority! Good to know. Even then the majority have been fed one narrative and will happily parrot what they hear a commentator or a pundit says as fact without questioning it. As a city fan you should know that.
 
SWP's back said:
Then you’ll have to accept that myself and the majority disagree with you.
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I'm comfortable being in the minority on this occasion, mate. I've rewatched a few times and still don't see how in real time with the defender already committing himself as Foden shoots how a cut back doesn't get blocked or a pass forward into the space doesn't get intercepted by Pope.

End of the day I'm not gonna get hung up on it too much, we will never know one way or the other.
Phil needs to do more than we've seen so far if he's to become the player most of us hope he can be but there's a section of the forum already seemingly willing to go hard with their criticism of him and I'm not sure he deserves some of the grief he's been getting.

I think both Foden and Haaland will eventually click and both will benefit from each other.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I thought the vast majority of our problems came from being pressed in midfield and leaving spaces up at the top. Both Bernie and Foden worked hard to get back there, but that gave us fewer options when going forward, especially as both were playing their first 90 minutes. Think it is a bit too easy to get distracted by the square ball and to judge overall performance on that.
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Distracted ffs potentially 2 up
Phil1 said:
I'm comfortable being in the minority on this occasion, mate. I've rewatched a few times and still don't see how in real time with the defender already committing himself as Foden shoots how a cut back doesn't get blocked or a pass forward into the space doesn't get intercepted by Pope.

End of the day I'm not gonna get hung up on it too much, we will never know one way or the other.
Phil needs to do more than we've seen so far if he's to become the player most of us hope he can be but there's a section of the forum already seemingly willing to go hard with their criticism of him and I'm not sure he deserves some of the grief he's been getting.

I think both Foden and Haaland will eventually click and both will benefit from each other.
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the only way they click is when foden is prepared to release the ball .
 
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