6% increase

Ric said:
To be fair to the club, I think they took the season ticket survey responses as being reflective of fans as a whole, and responded accordingly. However, the questions were weighted in such a way that they gave a misleading picture, and were never wholly representative.

Thus they acknowledged that some people wanted cheaper season tickets (hence the £250 cheap seats), some wanted a bigger, genuinely family oriented Family Stand, and some were willing to pay extra for a more "exclusive" matchday experience (hence the changes to East and West Level 2 starting in 2011/12).

However, they failed spectacularly in really understanding what the majority of fans want, and leapt somewhat blindly into what can only be described as an incredibly ill thought change to their ticketing policy.

Virtually everyone at the announcement tonight voiced their disapproval at various aspects of it, and I expressed my concerns personally to senior staff afterwards. I genuinely don't think they realised quite how unpopular these moves would be (although I told them they would find out tomorrow).

I don't believe this is a conscious move to price out ordinary fans as some have suggested, I just think they have monumentally misread what fans want, basing every decision they made on a fairly unrepresentative, officially conducted survey (which by their very nature don't give a true portrayal - no one I go the game with completed it). As I said to them tonight, it feels like they have rushed major decisions without really thinking them through, and I don't think they realised the consequences.

I'm convinced they don't want to alienate the traditional, hard core fans, as every experience I have with them suggests otherwise. The onus is now on them to react accordingly. Do they proceed with something that is clearly so unpopular, or rethink their strategy and acknowledge that they really are listening to the fans?

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Either way, it's going to be a fairly major PR own goal by the club. Why they don't run these ideas by the forums first I don't know, it's essentially free market research for them.
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Lets hope they read this thread ric and understand there folly if they push this through ,
 
BLUEMOONBAZ said:
pbibs said:
They can get a fuckin paper round at fourteen , save up for two years and pay for their own fuckin ticket. Or they can go watch Blackburn ;-)
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Your obviously a idiot .. read the words if you can... what happens to all the family fans with kids when they reach 16 in the north stand ???? where do they all move to ??? ... how will a paper round solve it ????
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Surely then at that point they are not kids. However, the people on here that envisage the club moving all the chidren to the north stand and then when then turn 16 kicking them out of the ground if we are at capacity or moving them if we are not at capacity are very reactionary and childlike themselves.
 
I'm just not getting this at all.

The owners dont need the cash.

They need more supporters coming through the gates as we dont sell out as much as Chelsea, Arsenal and United.

So they stick on a massive price increase in one of the country's least affluent areas. I know lads that go from Colwyn Bay and Rhyl etc, and there's no way that their coach will be full next season.If it goes at all.And these lads have been going for years.
 
pbibs said:
BLUEMOONBAZ said:
Your obviously a idiot .. read the words if you can... what happens to all the family fans with kids when they reach 16 in the north stand ???? where do they all move to ??? ... how will a paper round solve it ????
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Surely then at that point they are not kids. However, the people on here that envisage the club moving all the chidren to the north stand and then when then turn 16 kicking them out of the ground if we are at capacity or moving them if we are not at capacity are very reactionary and childlike themselves.
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so where do the new non kids and familys move to ?
as we hope hope the club has moved forward and s/t are taken up
????
 
felixbg said:
There is a light said:
Is anyone really considering not renewing?
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within my family we have 6 season tickets. my dad, uncle, sister & cousin are north level 2, so i guess they will be ok. me and my sister are south level 1. both 18-21 category so shouldnt be affected too much.
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How old is your sister and cousin in the north stand level 2?
 
Ric said:
To be fair to the club, I think they took the season ticket survey responses as being reflective of fans as a whole, and responded accordingly. However, the questions were weighted in such a way that they gave a misleading picture, and were never wholly representative.

Thus they acknowledged that some people wanted cheaper season tickets (hence the £250 cheap seats), some wanted a bigger, genuinely family oriented Family Stand, and some were willing to pay extra for a more "exclusive" matchday experience (hence the changes to East and West Level 2 starting in 2011/12).

However, they failed spectacularly in really understanding what the majority of fans want, and leapt somewhat blindly into what can only be described as an incredibly ill thought change to their ticketing policy.

Virtually everyone at the announcement tonight voiced their disapproval at various aspects of it, and I expressed my concerns personally to senior staff afterwards. I genuinely don't think they realised quite how unpopular these moves would be (although I told them they would find out tomorrow).

I don't believe this is a conscious move to price out ordinary fans as some have suggested, I just think they have monumentally misread what fans want, basing every decision they made on a fairly unrepresentative, officially conducted survey (which by their very nature don't give a true portrayal - no one I go the game with completed it). As I said to them tonight, it feels like they have rushed major decisions without really thinking them through, and I don't think they realised the consequences.

I'm convinced they don't want to alienate the traditional, hard core fans, as every experience I have with them suggests otherwise. The onus is now on them to react accordingly. Do they proceed with something that is clearly so unpopular, or rethink their strategy and acknowledge that they really are listening to the fans?

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Either way, it's going to be a fairly major PR own goal by the club. Why they don't run these ideas by the forums first I don't know, it's essentially free market research for them.
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What's your view on their initial reaction Ric, did you get any impression they may change their minds?
 
Immaculate Pasta said:
felixbg said:
within my family we have 6 season tickets. my dad, uncle, sister & cousin are north level 2, so i guess they will be ok. me and my sister are south level 1. both 18-21 category so shouldnt be affected too much.
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How old is your sister and cousin in the north stand level 2?
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Fucking hell mate, you'll be asking for pictures next :D
 
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