6% increase

[Freestyler]

What happens when my 14 year old no longer qualifies for the family stand and the rest of the ground has sold out? does that mean as a family we are out ? This has not been thought through, it has been dreamt up by business people with no knowledge or background of being a fan.

first thing i thought about!

city haven't exactly made anything clear here have they.

 

[BlueMooner87]

What happens when my 14 year old no longer qualifies for the family stand and the rest of the ground has sold out? does that mean as a family we are out ? This has not been thought through, it has been dreamt up by business people with no knowledge or background of being a fan.

first thing i thought about!

city haven't exactly made anything clear here have they.

There will be a natural rotation. When your time comes to move out of the family stand I would imagine there will be people having children and moving into the family stand to accommodate.

and if you are still worried you can always put up the extra to sit where you want to?

 

[Lindowman]

What happens when my 14 year old no longer qualifies for the family stand and the rest of the ground has sold out? does that mean as a family we are out ? This has not been thought through, it has been dreamt up by business people with no knowledge or background of being a fan.

first thing i thought about!

city haven't exactly made anything clear here have they.

Ah but in 2 years we could have an extended stadium in which case there would be no problem.

One thing is for sure and that the club will always have spare capacity for season ticket holders, as they will just reduce the seats allocated to access card holders if demand starts to climb.

 

[becomingparanoid]

Eh? After last years decrease and this years increase the average fan is still better off to 2 seasons ago, yet people were slagging the club.

No wonder our fans are labelled bitter!

I presume the changes dont affect you then!!!! Some people dont want to move from their seats do you not understand that

Like most of the North Standers on here. I have no problem with the increase in price but being forced to move from my seat I am finding difficult to accept. If anything I now feel worse than I did walking out of the ground last weekend, thanks for that City, why the fuck have I bothered for the last 50 years of watching you.

 

[allan harper]

Can't view the os I'm on mi phone, can some tell me how much its gonna cost to renew an adult season ticket in the south stand level 1. Cheers.

 

[Lindowman]

I presume the changes dont affect you then!!!! Some people dont want to move from their seats do you not understand that

Like most of the North Standers on here. I have no problem with the increase in price but being forced to move from my seat I am finding difficult to accept. If anything I now feel worse than I did walking out of the ground last weekend, thanks for that City, why the fuck have I bothered for the last 50 years of watching you.

I can truly sympathise with you m8, coz I would feel exactly the same......but please dont throw the towel in.....for gods sake keep hold of your ST coz they will become like gold dust in the future.

Go for the move and sure if it's crap after 12 months then at least you gave it your best shot but don't kneejerk it after 50 yrs.

 

[Freestyler]

first thing i thought about!

city haven't exactly made anything clear here have they.

There will be a natural rotation. When your time comes to move out of the family stand I would imagine there will be people having children and moving into the family stand to accommodate.

and if you are still worried you can always put up the extra to sit where you want to?

oh i won't be moving, i'm in block 121, doesnt affect me, just feel sorry for the people in the north stand who it's buggered up.<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:50 pm --<br /><br />

Can't view the os I'm on mi phone, can some tell me how much its gonna cost to renew an adult season ticket in the south stand level 1. Cheers.

£405

 

[allan harper]

Cheers freestyle nice one

 

[guvnors son mcfc]

first thing i thought about!

city haven't exactly made anything clear here have they.

Ah but in 2 years we could have an extended stadium in which case there would be no problem.

One thing is for sure and that the club will always have spare capacity for season ticket holders, as they will just reduce the seats allocated to access card holders if demand starts to climb.

if we win something next year COMS will be sold out, what happens to season ticket holders in the North when as the club put it "do not qualify" for the family stand, this is a shit idea, to have the entire North stand as a family stand has been dreamt up by a wanker of the highest order.

As somebody with a degree in business management this is what they have done, they have studied the stats from all home games.
1. There are currently kids in all 4 sides of the stadium with season tickets.
2. They struggle to sell the third tiers with the exception of Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool. This creates huge hassle for the ticket office when trying to sell tickets up in the gods.
3. Force all people with kids into the North with the incentive of cheap seats for kids.
4. Force all adults without kids in the North to "other" area's , which will see the third tier sold out for all games.

Do not let anybody kid you that this is to enhance atmosphere, this is a business minded decision, based on statistical analysis.

Mr Cook, You and your team have done a great job in terms of managing a business.
Mr Cook, The core of this business are the people, MCFC is not a manufacturing plant. Your business analysis has just shit on a great number of LOYAL people.

 

[Lindowman]

Ah but in 2 years we could have an extended stadium in which case there would be no problem.

One thing is for sure and that the club will always have spare capacity for season ticket holders, as they will just reduce the seats allocated to access card holders if demand starts to climb.

if we win something next year COMS will be sold out, what happens to season ticket holders in the North when as the club put it "do not qualify" for the family stand, this is a shit idea, to have the entire North stand as a family stand has been dreamt up by a wanker of the highest order.

As somebody with a degree in business management this is what they have done, they have studied the stats from all home games.
1. There are currently kids in all 4 sides of the stadium with season tickets.
2. They struggle to sell the third tiers with the exception of Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool. This creates huge hassle for the ticket office when trying to sell tickets up in the gods.
3. Force all people with kids into the North with the incentive of cheap seats for kids.
4. Force all adults without kids in the North to "other" area's , which will see the third tier sold out for all games.

Do not let anybody kid you that this is to enhance atmosphere, this is a business minded decision, based on statistical analysis.

Mr Cook, You and your team have done a great job in terms of managing a business.
Mr Cook, The core of this business are the people, MCFC is not a manufacturing plant. Your business analysis has just shit on a great number of LOYAL people.

I agree totally with you, when you say it has been based on statistical analysis, and tbh I think it could backfire on them if people are not incentivised to move in there.

However the club do hold back seats that are non ST seats so incase of demand going up because we win something they can utilise these seats for people who are displaced.

I would also wager imo, using your statistical analysis that they have shit on a "small number of LOYAL people" in this instance. But yes shit on them they have, as I wouldnt like to be forced out of my seat either.

 

[guvnors son mcfc]

if we win something next year COMS will be sold out, what happens to season ticket holders in the North when as the club put it "do not qualify" for the family stand, this is a shit idea, to have the entire North stand as a family stand has been dreamt up by a wanker of the highest order.

As somebody with a degree in business management this is what they have done, they have studied the stats from all home games.
1. There are currently kids in all 4 sides of the stadium with season tickets.
2. They struggle to sell the third tiers with the exception of Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool. This creates huge hassle for the ticket office when trying to sell tickets up in the gods.
3. Force all people with kids into the North with the incentive of cheap seats for kids.
4. Force all adults without kids in the North to "other" area's , which will see the third tier sold out for all games.

Do not let anybody kid you that this is to enhance atmosphere, this is a business minded decision, based on statistical analysis.

Mr Cook, You and your team have done a great job in terms of managing a business.
Mr Cook, The core of this business are the people, MCFC is not a manufacturing plant. Your business analysis has just shit on a great number of LOYAL people.

I agree totally with you, when you say it has been based on statistical analysis, and tbh I think it could backfire on them if people are not incentivised to move in there.

However the club do hold back seats that are non ST seats so incase of demand going up because we win something they can utilise these seats for people who are displaced.

I would also wager imo, using your statistical analysis that they have shit on a "small number of LOYAL people" in this instance. But yes shit on them they have, as I wouldnt like to be forced out of my seat either.

My guess it will backfire.
There is no way that this decision has been based on the recent survey results. This decision was made prior to the survey and the survey results will be used as the smoke screen excuse. This makes the survey a "sham" and a farce, a very poor idea to pretend to involve the fans in a decision that was made weeks ago.
The North Stand will not sell out to families alone.

Once my lad is classed as an adult the only seats that "may remain" will be on the third tier. My current seat on 136 is a fantastic view, I have sat on the third tier once before and in my opinion it is shit and like watching football from outer space, 22 ants on a field chasing a golf ball. As much as I love City and even if we are European Champions, if I am forced up there and at an increase I will fuck it off, they can shove it up their arses.

 

[goat boy]

Two things-

Firstly- am I reading something right? North standers, on eviction, get first dibs on moving. Presumably they're not going to sell my seat to a North stander before I get to renew?

Secondly- aren't the club probably about right in expecting lots of families to up from wherever they are and go to the North stand, for the cost saving of £45 multiplied by however many kids you bring with you? Won't this free up seats, especially across at the South Stand end and all around on the 2nd tier?

 

[Corky]

Two things-

Firstly- am I reading something right? North standers, on eviction, get first dibs on moving. Presumably they're not going to sell my seat to a North stander before I get to renew?

Secondly- aren't the club probably about right in expecting lots of families to up from wherever they are and go to the North stand, for the cost saving of £45 multiplied by however many kids you bring with you? Won't this free up seats, especially across at the South Stand end and all around on the 2nd tier?

They may expect that but alot will stay put.

You can't stay in the North Stand long term, 3rd tier is likely afterwards, so people will bite the bullet and fork out. Depends if the child is 6 or 13 though.

 

[Lindowman]

Two things-

Firstly- am I reading something right? North standers, on eviction, get first dibs on moving. Presumably they're not going to sell my seat to a North stander before I get to renew?

Secondly- aren't the club probably about right in expecting lots of families to up from wherever they are and go to the North stand, for the cost saving of £45 multiplied by however many kids you bring with you? Won't this free up seats, especially across at the South Stand end and all around on the 2nd tier?

Yes in essence.....but believe me you dont want 2nd tier coz that'll be like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire....coz theyre gonna get hit in 2011/12 with the "experience" !

 

[Richard]

Surely the club have got to do something about this. All this unrest for no reason what so ever. Whichever overpaid boffin who thourght of this joke policy needs sacking.

 

[lancs blue]

Firstly- am I reading something right? North standers, on eviction, get first dibs on moving. Presumably they're not going to sell my seat to a North stander before I get to renew?

No, it clearly says Northstanders moving get first pick of available seats from 3-7 May.

 

[blueshortshorts]

Ok..calmed down a bit after posting on about page 3 or 4 of this thread.

The way I see it is this is part of a bigger plan.

If you were running the stadium, and you were tasked with selling 3 tickets on Colin Bell Level 2, what would you do?

Would you sell the 3 seats to someone who wanted a seat for him and his 2 kids for £765 (£95 each for the kids and £575.00 for him) or would you prefer to sell the seats to 3 adults for £1,725?..your going to take the latter.

The dilemma is that the club want to offer concessions for kids, so they allocate an area of the ground, where they are happy to sell the tickets to kids for £95. they do there research and realise that that they need both tiers of the North Stand to house these kids, as there isn't enough room in the 2nd tier alone.
Do they scrap it and say, let's keep things as they are and charge kids £300 per seat whereever they sit..or bite the bullet now, and get all the kids in one "end" and leave the rest of the stadium to the adults.

Now the problem ,, in the short term with this, is that we will be the only club that has an "end" that sounds like an England schoolboys international, whereas our other "end" is split with the away fans..not ideal. Equally we will have a half empty North Stand on midweek 8pm kick offs.

But spin forward a few years when the stadium has been expanded, or a new one built, and we can house £80K.Suddenly the kids area goes from being 25% of the capacity, to something neaer 10% of the enlarged capacity..and probably relocated into a corner of the stadium, as it used to be in maine road.

So in summary, I think they have to bite the bullet, and chuck the families in one end, if they want to continue with the £95.00 tickets..then in a few years when we expand, move the whole lot to a different area.

What the club should do, however, is decide that everyone who is being forced to leave the North Stand because they are not criteria could be offered seats in certain areas of the stadium at the same price as they would have paid in the North Stand for, say,the next 2 seasons...that might soften the blow a little

 

[dw7]

Surely the club have got to do something about this. All this unrest for no reason what so ever. Whichever overpaid boffin who thourght of this joke policy needs sacking.

all what unrest bm posters is a small minority of city fans plus not all bm posters are pissed off so that makes that small miniorty even smaller

 

[bluewigmcfc]

how many adult season card holders will have to move?

 

[chesterguy]

Surely the club have got to do something about this. All this unrest for no reason what so ever. Whichever overpaid boffin who thourght of this joke policy needs sacking.

all what unrest bm posters is a small minority of city fans plus not all bm posters are pissed off so that makes that small miniorty even smaller

I presume you are not affected by being evicted from your seat then good luck to you. It does affect a large number of people in the North stand and potentially it will affect alot of people in other stands with kids as they will either pay double what they did last year to stay in thier seats or if money is tight they will move to get the cheap seats in the North stand.

I wish people who are not affected by these changes would shut the fuck up their "what the fuck are people moaning for" attitude stinks to be honest. I would love it if the club said that all long standing season ticket holders had first choice on any seat then see some of you who couldnt give a fuck moan then!!!!!