A call for Patience and realism

Caveman said:
BillyShears said:
cibaman said:
Unlike Hughes and Mancini Pellegrini was appointed by the club's current hierarchy so is safe for this season.

There'd have to be a monumental disaster of finishing outside the top 4 proportions for Pellegrini to not be allowed to get on with his business both this season and next. Just my opinion but those people hoping him gone so early are wasting their energies.
Any top three finish this season, for me; a good cup run, maybe even wining one; plus getting out of the group and, depending on the draw, progressing to the quarter finals of the CL. I'd consider that a season worthy of giving him a good kitty again next Summer and going for ultimate goals of silverware next season.

But if he puts in any more tactical gameplans like last night none of the above will happening and he'll be out.

Agreed - my thoughts too
 
It will be a humiliating event for Ferran & Co. if they have to euthanize MP part way through the Season. It will be an admission of how they failed to provide the Owners with a suitable candidate, it will be an admission that the £100 mllion they splurged on players was a poor investment return.

It would surely raise serious questions for the Owners on the judgement skills of the Spaniards...

One cannot but admire the redevelopment of Eastlands but that will take 10 years to produce any measurable return. Meanwhile we have a Football Clubs key decisions (Players & Coach) being made by business executives who are not demonstrating a great deal of acumen ...........
 
Whatever happens to Pellegrini, and I'm quite sure he will be safe unless he fails to qualify for next year's Champions League, it does not mean we've spunked £85m net down the drain. We've bought some bloody good players who all bring different dimensions to the team.
 
nellyonthewing said:
It will be a humiliating event for Ferran & Co. if they have to euthanize MP part way through the Season. It will be an admission of how they failed to provide the Owners with a suitable candidate, it will be an admission that the £100 mllion they splurged on players was a poor investment return.

It would surely raise serious questions for the Owners on the judgement skills of the Spaniards...

One cannot but admire the redevelopment of Eastlands but that will take 10 years to produce any measurable return. Meanwhile we have a Football Clubs key decisions (Players & Coach) being made by business executives who are not demonstrating a great deal of acumen ...........

Touche , they have a vested interest to see that MP is a success in the time he is with us.

They cannot afford too many of the blips we saw last night and again as the many tens of millions around the world that see all of our matches on pay per view who will be tuned in at 12.45 local time on Saturday.

Big game for MP this one on Saturday , real Big.
 
BillyShears said:
cibaman said:
Unlike Hughes and Mancini Pellegrini was appointed by the club's current hierarchy so is safe for this season.

There'd have to be a monumental disaster of finishing outside the top 4 proportions for Pellegrini to not be allowed to get on with his business both this season and next. Just my opinion but those people hoping him gone so early are wasting their energies.

Energy which would be better used on getting behind the team, not moaning constantly.
 
GXCity said:
BillyShears said:
cibaman said:
Unlike Hughes and Mancini Pellegrini was appointed by the club's current hierarchy so is safe for this season.

There'd have to be a monumental disaster of finishing outside the top 4 proportions for Pellegrini to not be allowed to get on with his business both this season and next. Just my opinion but those people hoping him gone so early are wasting their energies.

Energy which would be better used on getting behind the team, not moaning constantly.

as long as energy on a match day is placed firmly behind the manager and the players there is no harm is voicing concerns to what ever degree away from the game

wednesdays tactical ineptitude is worthy of much debate, from the announcement of the team sheets alone he should of known 4-4-2 was at best very risky
 
Patience is the key. Pellegrini's only a "caretaker" manager till Pep takes over in 2 and half years after winning everything with Bayern. Our directors want the holistic system in place for then and only then will we start to dominate world football and wipe away everyone before us!
 
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Patience is the key. Pellegrini's only a "caretaker" manager till Pep takes over in 2 and half years after winning everything with Bayern. Our directors want the holistic system in place for then and only then will we start to dominate world football and wipe away everyone before us!

Would Pep want to come to us if we are a Europa League side by then? Or for that matter, if Ferran and Txiki have been sacked? Additionally, I'm still waiting to see Pep manage at a side where success isn't already guaranteed. Sure, he's just converted Bayern's formation in a very short period, but of all the sides in Europe I'd say Bayern were the easiest to turn into a Barcelona team. Doing it with City would be a far, far tougher challenge.
 
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Patience is the key. Pellegrini's only a "caretaker" manager till Pep takes over in 2 and half years after winning everything with Bayern. Our directors want the holistic system in place for then and only then will we start to dominate world football and wipe away everyone before us!

Why in the hell would he leave Bayern for us ?
 
Pellegrini put great faith in the team against Bayern, he thought they were capable of attacking Bayern and getting a result. I don't know whether that is ridiculously naive, or a positive show of intent.
 
Blue Elmo said:
Pellegrini put great faith in the team against Bayern, he thought they were capable of attacking Bayern and getting a result. I don't know whether that is ridiculously naive, or a positive show of intent.

At 1-0 down it looked naive. By 3-0 it was stupid.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Blue Elmo said:
Pellegrini put great faith in the team against Bayern, he thought they were capable of attacking Bayern and getting a result. I don't know whether that is ridiculously naive, or a positive show of intent.

At 1-0 down it looked naive. By 3-0 it was stupid.

Pretty much sums up Pellegrini thus far.
 
Right then:

The thickness of a bar and we could have somehow sneaked a draw.
Neuer was dead and buried and I would have fancied us to score again.

Fine margins ...
 
toffee balls said:
Right then:

The thickness of a bar and we could have somehow sneaked a draw.
Neuer was dead and buried and I would have fancied us to score again.

Fine margins ...

The thickness of a post an it could have been 4-0. Not such a fine margin.
 
toffee balls said:
Right then:

The thickness of a bar and we could have somehow sneaked a draw.
Neuer was dead and buried and I would have fancied us to score again.

Fine margins ...

We did ok last 15 minutes. It was the most positive part of the night. I am not sure if Bayern had taken the foot off the gas and found it hard to ramp it up again once we scored one but it was something.

However, two changes should have been made at half time or maybe even before. I dont care if it upsets players.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
To be fair, he did actually change things at half time and we started to play better. He didn't change any players, but Aguero came much deeper to fill the numbers in midfield,and we started the second half well. And then we made two more stupid defensive errors in quick succession and the game was lost. But then he still took a further 10 minutes to change to 5 in the middle, when he should've done it immediately. The first substitution of Negredo for Dzeko was so disappointing, because it showed that he was stubbornly sticking to a system that was so obviously not working.

Completely agree, needed more players in midle and running. Two forward were completely cut off. The system we start have to be flexible at any point in game. We started well second half, to bad we did not score becouse it would be completely different game. Nasri's corner kicks were chanse, but he needs to change the way he is doing them They were all going in the midle (in front of penalty) were opisition placed the wall (obviously they studied that aspect of our game), also corner kick has to be stronger which does not give time oposition to regroup while ball is in the air.
 
The point I am making is that we came back at them and I will take all the postives I can from that.

Silva helped a lot and we could have sneaked another when they were correctly reduced down to 10 men ( don't forget Yaya was clean through on goal also).

Clutching at straws but we did a damn site better than Barca did.
 
bluemoon32 said:
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Patience is the key. Pellegrini's only a "caretaker" manager till Pep takes over in 2 and half years after winning everything with Bayern. Our directors want the holistic system in place for then and only then will we start to dominate world football and wipe away everyone before us!

Why in the hell would he leave Bayern for us ?


Everyone has a price and he may see what we are trying to do off the field and with the acadamy as being made for his style.

We have to try to get him if he becomes available., It would be madness not to.
 
Falastur said:
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Patience is the key. Pellegrini's only a "caretaker" manager till Pep takes over in 2 and half years after winning everything with Bayern. Our directors want the holistic system in place for then and only then will we start to dominate world football and wipe away everyone before us!

Would Pep want to come to us if we are a Europa League side by then? Or for that matter, if Ferran and Txiki have been sacked? Additionally, I'm still waiting to see Pep manage at a side where success isn't already guaranteed. Sure, he's just converted Bayern's formation in a very short period, but of all the sides in Europe I'd say Bayern were the easiest to turn into a Barcelona team. Doing it with City would be a far, far tougher challenge.
Europa league? Don't think so. Not sure we'll win the league this season but not even finish in the top four as you're suggesting? Mmmm as bit pessimistic!<br /><br />-- Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:40 pm --<br /><br />
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
bluemoon32 said:
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Patience is the key. Pellegrini's only a "caretaker" manager till Pep takes over in 2 and half years after winning everything with Bayern. Our directors want the holistic system in place for then and only then will we start to dominate world football and wipe away everyone before us!

Why in the hell would he leave Bayern for us ?


Everyone has a price and he may see what we are trying to do off the field and with the acadamy as being made for his style.

We have to try to get him if he becomes available., It would be madness not to.
Correct, was about to reply the same. Also our connections with him and our management team have suggested he was on our radar before he went to Bayern but he'd already agreed to go to them.
 

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