JoeMercer'sWay said:it was the free kick against carlos when actually it should have been awarded to city, that put them on the front foot atkinson knew this and completely manipulated the game in united's favour, if anyone on this site thinks that the officials are not manipulating games in united's favour they are very very naive?leroy said:point proven - some go for, some go against.
btw, in your opinion it shouldnt have counted. we could have scored in the added time, just like blackpool could have done last night.
we can rightly call them for a lot of things, but the fact they dont give up is why they are successful. it is something we need to progress from where we are
not the point when the added time wasn't justifiable.
Case in point was when Everton had a 3 on 1 on the break at Goodison against them this season at 3-3 and the ref blew up during the attack for full time, the very same ref who let United carry on despite the allotted time having run out by a distance.
if u dont think they are bent just google the name louis edwards.Pigeonho said:Just think about it for a second. Think about what it would take for a United official to go through to make a payment to a ref or any other bod, to ensure a game is not lost. Surely there would be a paper trail? An electronic transfer of data trail? An audio trail? A money trail?
We have just seen the downfall of a Sky 'legend', (their term, not mine), all in the space of 24 hours - because there was a trail. Now some think that trail was set up, and I can see why. That is just to bring down a commentator, not a club and one of the greatest managers ever, just a commentator. Now surely if someone hated United that much and suspected there was foul play with refs, a sting could be set up? Remember how easily Sven got stung by the NOTW? Surely if they thought something was not right, they would set up a sting to unmask the biggest footballing scandal since records began? It couldn't be that hard to do, could it?
Or am I being very naive and very gullible by not realising that it could actually be a matter of a masked menace, sneaking up to Peter Waltons house at night with a self exploding letter which explains what this 'payment' is for?
Still think its happening?
Just to say, this isn't a smartarse pop at those I regard as deluded enough to believe United are favoured upon. You know my thoughts on that. I believe they win because that is all they know to do and whether I get pillared for this or not, I admire how they carve out results like last night and I wish to high heaven we could start doing it. Time will bring that mentality to us, I am certain of it but its all about gaining the experience of doing so, and the fact is they have players there who only know how to win, and that experience rubs off on whoever it is Bacon Face decides to add to the squad for the future.
I see your point mate but they won't be in 16th, they are too big a club to drop so low so quickly. At the start of the season many of us said that they didn't have the squad to challenge, and to be truthful, they've looked very average to say the least. Through other teams dropping points they have stood out at the head of the class, not because of their football, but merely because of their points. And that is the point, they get decisions that any other club can only dream of. If Neville played for any other club he'd have been off......twice! If Ferdinand threw is studs in whilst playing for West Ham, he'd have faced the same punishment. And what about Vidic last year, was that not a goal scoring opportunity against Villa in the Cup?Pigeonho said:I can't see it, I just see a very experienced and very good team doing what such a team should do. Answer me this then. Next season United have the worst injury record the league has known. Its December 2011 and United are in 16th place and those absentees have been confirmed as non starters again this season. What could the league possibly do to ensure that Uniteds new average team, finishes in the top 4? My point is if there isn't the quality for them to do it naturally like the do now, what will the league to to ensure that average squad succeeds but without it beinf really obvious? The odd penalty here and there?The Future's Blue said:I take it that was sarcasm? But to think about it, who does actually run these institutions? We all know United have their fingers in all the pies and we do know that Sky like to promote their brand with the Rags as their Flagship. So the truth is, it's not real corruption in terms of the word, more what we like to refer as 'Favouritism', ensuring certain teams get a little more from the ref's than usual.
Now, if people can't see that then I don't know what to say.