A question for those who think corruption is happening.

johnmc said:
CBlue said:
Not every ref. There are a handfull. Why not Uniteds games? The fact that you doubt it would make it even more lucrative & likely. What were the odds for a United win at half time last night? What were the betting patterns?

So 4 or 5 refs are controlled by the rags. All refs that have been approached have accepted and no refs have been approached and declined and leaked it out.

The game last night was manipulated so united were losing at half time and winning at full time. Have you forgot about the Blackpool team? Or were they in on it? If United are able are that good that they can ensure coming back to win from 2 nil down then fare play to them

You need to research how this is done. They don't ask them in the car park before the game.
 
There's corruption, but they've done it so there's no hard evidence. The odd penalty here, the odd free-kick there, the "odd" occasion where Ferguson isn't banned for screaming at the fourth official for not adding on enough time; there is evidence there, and the only person to bring it up was Rafael Benitez, and look what happened to him!

There is so much evidence in video recordings of matches, but of course, those decisions will be down to "human error" and nothing else. I guess "human error" is more likely infront of the Stretford End, The Kop, The Shed End etc.

There's a lot of clubs wanting to show United and the FA up for this, but we all have our own differences which keep us from drawing swords and fighting for eachother, so there will never be any true resolve until Ferguson, Giggs and Scholes go. And after that, there will be a legacy that will keep the decisions going United's way. But by then, their team won't be good enough to capitalise on it.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Is it too far fetched to believe there could be a `hardcore` that sound out certain individuals they feel may be suitable ? it happens in other organisations John.

It is too far fetched as its not really workable.

If it was that corrupt then the ref wouldnt have allowed the Blackpool goals in the first place. Also you could say it was a definate penalty - but so was West Broms v Blackburn. Mistakes happen in every game. they are just highlighted more in the rags case which is why referees are scared to get things wrong. Was there a thread about refs being bias towards Blackburn or conspiring to ensure Blackbutn won to keep the middle east betting ring happy?

Also you are relying on incidents to happen - was it "staged" that the raphael would push someone and the ref not give it? Would the ref not have given a penalty for any incident at that stage in the game? No, he didnt think it was a penalty and thats it. Is that too hard to believe.

We as blues complain against every decision that goes the rags way near enough. But many dubious decisions have gone our way this season, just has they have against us.

On one hand Rapheal shouldnt have got sent off against spurs, that decision went against them - but he should have got more for the way he left the field - that decision went for them.
 
The better team they become the more corrupt they are.

Come on get over yourselves.

Come the 12th I would like to think no level of corruption or conspiracy theories will make any difference to the result.
 
johnmc said:
The Future's Blue said:
Who controls the Ref's, the FA or Premier League?

Who controls the Premier League, the Premier League or Sky?

The rags. To both.
I take it that was sarcasm? But to think about it, who does actually run these institutions? We all know United have their fingers in all the pies and we do know that Sky like to promote their brand with the Rags as their Flagship. So the truth is, it's not real corruption in terms of the word, more what we like to refer as 'Favouritism', ensuring certain teams get a little more from the ref's than usual.

Now, if people can't see that then I don't know what to say.
 
Pigeonho said:
So who does all this benefit then? Some have said the PL as a whole for revenue. If thats the case, do you think the PL had a hand in poisoning Spurs' Lasagne a few years ago, so they couldn't break that top 4? WHy were they allowed to last year then?

because they were fighting us for 4th, had qualified by the last game and subconsciously the FA and PL wanted Hicks and Gillett to sell up as they were damaging a valuable asset in Liverpool.
 
CBlue said:
johnmc said:
So 4 or 5 refs are controlled by the rags. All refs that have been approached have accepted and no refs have been approached and declined and leaked it out.

The game last night was manipulated so united were losing at half time and winning at full time. Have you forgot about the Blackpool team? Or were they in on it? If United are able are that good that they can ensure coming back to win from 2 nil down then fare play to them

You need to research how this is done. They don't ask them in the car park before the game.

There is nothing to research though mate.

When we get a decision our way, as we have had a few this season, are we influencing the ref??
 
123456789 said:
referee are afraid of fergusson.his experience...
untd are lucky in that sence.

Even a guy from Nepal figured it out, and a good share of you can't see it from Manchester... Too close for comfort?
 

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