A thread about protesters

inbetween said:
How is protesting preventing the continued destruction of the planet? This is the idiocy of these arguments, it's like these protesters are doing great work and they're the line between good and evil but they aren't, they aren't scientists, they're idiots gluing themselves to a road.

What the protesters have done is raised awareness not of insulation but rather of just how shit we ALL are in dealing with this issue. Deep down though we know there's nothing we can do about it and the reality is none of us are prepared to suffer to help. You don't even need insulation, just turn the heating off and keep it off but how many will or even can do that?

I live in a new build which has solar panels that generate next to nothing at the moment because of the low sun and short days. It also has plenty of insulation, we have it in the attic and we have it in the wall cavities. However, even with these 'efficient' things we still rely on the grid for 99% of our electricity and we put the heating on in the evening last night and early today because it was freezing. It therefore does not make any real difference.

Consider this, to avoid catastrophic warming we have to reduce our emissions faster than we have increased them over the last century... At no point in history have emissions fallen except for the worst of the pandemic last year where our social and economic systems basically collapsed for 6 months.

I believe in climate change and it's almost certainly going to cause us problems but I don't think that we can do anything about it. The only thing we can do about it is to take radical actions to bring us back to the low emission equivalent of life in the 1800's.... And wasn't life great in those days?
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Sorry if I gave you the impression I wanted to have a discussion on the environment with your type. You people are the problem not the solution.
 
mccity said:
Well no they shouldn't, but the current process of arresting them and sending them to court is working far better than if someone decides to harm them and make a martyr out of then.

These road blockings have been popping up periodically and they've never been too bad for too long. It's the same small set of people every year. Run one over with your car and I promise you the numbers will boom.
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I'm perfectly happy to see them arrested and end up jailed, if someone decided to deliberately kill one, that would also
be addressed by the courts. If the next tranche of lunatics
they arrest follow their lead and end up there, it's all good.
 
hilts said:
You have a funny sense of extremism a bit of glue and the mad bad ideology of insulating homes.

Should we be allowed to continually destroy the planet?

I know which is the most extreme and dangerous ideology.
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It would appear that the British judiciary fall into your version
of extremism, they've not listened to this argument either.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
I'm perfectly happy to see them arrested and end up jailed, if someone decided to deliberately kill one, that would also
be addressed by the courts. If the next tranche of lunatics
they arrest follow their lead and end up there, it's all good.
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you’re relaxed about the prospect of murder and you think Insulate Britain are the extremists. Amazing
 
KPXBLN said:
you’re relaxed about the prospect of murder and you think Insulate Britain are the extremists. Amazing
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No, I said that the courts would react to anyone commiting
crimes, in the same way as they have just done, it seems that
you do not like this.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Why do you think these people are now in jail?
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Because the planet is going to shit and those in charge won't do enough about it due to the apathy of human beings.

When people started annoying those self interested arseholes the government had a choice. They chose the easy option because they need votes from the same apathetic arseholes.

I hope that clears it up for you.
 
hilts said:
Because the planet is going to shit and those in charge won't do enough about it due to the apathy of human beings.

When people started annoying those self interested arseholes the government had a choice. They chose the easy option because they need votes from the same apathetic arseholes.

I hope that clears it up for you.
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So in your opinion anyone against the antics of these people are self interested arseholes.
It's an opinion I suppose, thankfully only held by the likes of those now inside.
 
It’s perfectly reasonable to care about the environment, do your bit and support the principle behind groups like Insulate Britain but at the same time, disagree with their tactic of protest.

To suggest anything else is an extreme view imo.
 
blueinsa said:
It’s perfectly reasonable to care about the environment, do your bit and support the principle behind groups like Insulate Britain but at the same time, disagree with their tactic of protest.

To suggest anything else is an extreme view imo.
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What tactic would you like them to use?

This should be good.
 
hilts said:
What tactic would you like them to use?

This should be good.
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They could always protest in a legal way like hundreds of thousands of others do.

Blocking the highway and gluing yourself to vehicles and the road is against the law and always has been.

They knew that, fully expected to be arrested and probably jailed and now it’s happened, some are acting shocked by it?

I just don’t get it as a tactic for their protest it’s that simple. It has not worked for them as a group and it certainly hasn’t worked for the individuals now sat in prison.
 
blueinsa said:
They could always protest in a legal way like hundreds of thousands of others do.

Blocking the highway and gluing yourself to vehicles and the road is against the law and always has been.

They knew that, fully expected to be arrested and probably jailed and now it’s happened, some are acting shocked by it?

I just don’t get it as a tactic for their protest it’s that simple. It has not worked for them as a group and it certainly hasn’t worked for the individuals now sat in prison.
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The problem though is nobody would give a seconds notice to a protest which wasn't really affecting anybody. A few dozen folk just standing in a street somewhere with placards would just quietly be swept under carpet and forgotten about, certainly wouldn't prick the publics conscious.
To get attention to a cause usually needs something that will grab headlines.
Not going to argue the rights or wrongs of this particular protest but I can understand why they've chosen to do what they've done.
 
blueinsa said:
They could always protest in a legal way like hundreds of thousands of others do.

Blocking the highway and gluing yourself to vehicles and the road is against the law and always has been.

They knew that, fully expected to be arrested and probably jailed and now it’s happened, some are acting shocked by it?

I just don’t get it as a tactic for their protest it’s that simple. It has not worked for them as a group and it certainly hasn’t worked for the individuals now sat in prison.
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So just do what hasn't worked for decades.

Maybe they could do it in the privacy of their homes so the placards wouldn't be a distraction to car drivers? Some may have an accident. Sniff.

I was wrong your reply wasn't any good:-)
 
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hilts said:
So just do what hasn't worked for decades.

Maybe they could do it in the privacy of their homes so the placards wouldn't be a distraction to car drivers? Some may have an accident. Sniff.

I was wrong it your reply wasn't any good:-)
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Now you are just being silly.

Anyone needing their insulation done can quickly Google and it will give them access to grants that are available.

No need to thank me and all done from my phone and not a bit of glue or law breaking in sight ;-)
 
blueinsa said:
Now you are just being silly.

Anyone needing their insulation done can quickly Google and it will give them access to grants that are available.

No need to thank me and all done from my phone and not a bit of glue or law breaking in sight ;-)
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And it took me less time on my phone to Google how inadequate the scheme is which would come as no surprise to anyone but a Govt stool.

My only surprise is you seem to have turned into one.

We live in a country where most folks are more concerned about a Z list celeb doing a ballroom dance on TV than the planet we live on and the environment we create.
If some pillocks want to knock people that actually care and are actually willing to incarcerate themselves then they can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

They will ultimately fail because of people like you. But I certainly won't knock them for at least trying.

Some people got to work late. Great priorities the public have.
 
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