A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps.

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

This is apparently the man:

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west didsblue said:
bucks said:
Just read that in the U.S. and elsewhere, whenever a pilot leaves the cockpit a flight attendant goes in so there are always 2 people in there. This is not the rule on Lufthansa.
I suspect that most European airlines will adopt this policy fairly soon and regulatory changes will be introduced to mandate it eventually.

I think most UK airlines already adopt this. I have been on a number of flights in the last 18 months and I have noticed a member of Cabin Crew go in when one of the Pilot's has needed to come out for the Toilet etc on a number of occasions.

When I heard one of the pilots had left the cockpit I thought a member of cabin crew would have gone in but as mentioned already Luthansa didn't have this policy.
 
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johnny on the spot said:
This is apparently the man:

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Ironic. Picture taken at a bridge that's notorious for suicidal jumpers.
 
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This worries more than the thought that the plane had a malfunction. If a plane suffers a serious fault then that's sort of the risk you take with every mode of transport but the thought of a pilot taking everyone down with him is terrifying.
 
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RandomJ said:
This worries more than the thought that the plane had a malfunction. If a plane suffers a serious fault then that's sort of the risk you take with every mode of transport but the thought of a pilot taking everyone down with him is terrifying.

I am a poor flier at the best of times but this will make me worse. Every time I see a pilot going for a piss I will be looking at the cockpit door from now on. What a terribly evil selfish thing to do. Why not just jump off a bridge or take some tablets?
 
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when I first saw this I thought decompression of the cabin and thought at least the people on board wouldn't of suffered before the crash.

whenever you see a pilot before your flight, they usually look the calmest person on board ,ultra professional even when they speak over the intercom calm and collected , imagine seeing the capt freaking out trying to batter the door down ,that cabin would be worse than hell hysteria would of spread ,that would of been a terrible last 8 mins and I feel deeply for the families of the victims knowing their loved ones went through that .


also that picture of the pilot sat near the bridge ,im sure I've seen it somewhere else
 
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sad fucker taking all them innocent people with him.

could have been worse he could have brought it down in a public place
 
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This is awful but it will not put me off flying, you cannot legislate for the sick behaviour of one individual
At least we know Lufthansa and Germanwings were telling the truth when they said the aeroplane was serviced and was 'spot on'

RIP the 149 poor souls
May you rot in Hell the other one, bastard
 
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squirtyflower said:
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
http://pilots-airmen.findthedata.com/l/986395/Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz
some real sick bastards posting comments on there

they should be hunted down and prosecuted

4chan again, I'm afraid. Such is the internet.
 
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worsleyweb said:
RandomJ said:
This worries more than the thought that the plane had a malfunction. If a plane suffers a serious fault then that's sort of the risk you take with every mode of transport but the thought of a pilot taking everyone down with him is terrifying.

I am a poor flier at the best of times but this will make me worse. Every time I see a pilot going for a piss I will be looking at the cockpit door from now on. What a terribly evil selfish thing to do. Why not just jump off a bridge or take some tablets?

Since when do terrorists just take their own lives ?
 
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worsleyweb said:
RandomJ said:
This worries more than the thought that the plane had a malfunction. If a plane suffers a serious fault then that's sort of the risk you take with every mode of transport but the thought of a pilot taking everyone down with him is terrifying.

I am a poor flier at the best of times but this will make me worse. Every time I see a pilot going for a piss I will be looking at the cockpit door from now on. What a terribly evil selfish thing to do. Why not just jump off a bridge or take some tablets?

I really don't understand why this would make it worse for you, get the plane finder app everyday there are 1000's of incident free flights all over the world (in fact sometimes it looks like a miracle how they keep them all apart) aviation disasters make the news because a lot of people get killed in one single incident, however it's safer than driving on British roads which have one of the best safety records in the world
 
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jaxxaj said:
worsleyweb said:
RandomJ said:
This worries more than the thought that the plane had a malfunction. If a plane suffers a serious fault then that's sort of the risk you take with every mode of transport but the thought of a pilot taking everyone down with him is terrifying.

I am a poor flier at the best of times but this will make me worse. Every time I see a pilot going for a piss I will be looking at the cockpit door from now on. What a terribly evil selfish thing to do. Why not just jump off a bridge or take some tablets?

Since when do terrorists just take their own lives ?

how do you read terrorist into what you've highlighted?
 
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tonea2003 said:
jaxxaj said:
worsleyweb said:
I am a poor flier at the best of times but this will make me worse. Every time I see a pilot going for a piss I will be looking at the cockpit door from now on. What a terribly evil selfish thing to do. Why not just jump off a bridge or take some tablets?

Since when do terrorists just take their own lives ?

how do you read terrorist into what you've highlighted?

That's what the pilot was, another scumbag terrorist who killed 150 innocent lives. No need to portray him as anything else but a scumbag terrorist.

Edit: 149 innocent lives...
 
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jaxxaj said:
tonea2003 said:
jaxxaj said:
Since when do terrorists just take their own lives ?

how do you read terrorist into what you've highlighted?

That's what the pilot was, another scumbag terrorist who killed 150 innocent lives. No need to portray him as anything else but a scumbag terrorist.

Edit: 149 innocent lives...

Do we know he had a cause?
Terrorists have causes.
 
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Just been reading on another forum, that he programmed the autopilot to take the plane down to 100 feet (this will be above mean sea level) at 09:30:55s, and has been derived from the data used to work out where a plane is, how high, and how fast its going, on the flight radar apps you can use. Until then it had been programmed to cruise at 38000 feet. Apparently the data is transmitted to radar, but not routinely looked at, but it can be interrogated if you have the right kit, and ATC can access it. I assume it only works if in radar contact, so over an Ocean may not be available (MH370 for instance).

This is an excerpt from the data, the 3 highlighted lines show the change to the autopilot. The coloured numbers indicate the actual height of the aircraft in the data, I've only highlighted a few.

09:30:48Z.651 MCP/FMC ALT: 38000 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:48Z.936 T,3c6618,43.115341,5.671181,38000,GWI18G
09:30:49Z.496 T,3c6618,43.116028,5.671692,38000,GWI18G
09:30:50Z.076 T,3c6618,43.117381,5.673065,38000,GWI18G
09:30:50Z.111 MCP/FMC ALT: 38000 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:50Z.553 MCP/FMC ALT: 38000 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:50Z.619 MCP/FMC ALT: 38000 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:50Z.626 T,3c6618,43.118408,5.673736,38000,GWI18G
09:30:51Z.127 T,3c6618,43.119095,5.674247,38000,GWI18G
09:30:51Z.636 T,3c6618,43.120453,5.675092,38000,GWI18G
09:30:52Z.386 MCP/FMC ALT: 38000 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:52Z.567 T,3c6618,43.122208,5.676482,38000,GWI18G
09:30:53Z.036 T,3c6618,43.122894,5.676993,38000,GWI18G
09:30:53Z.546 T,3c6618,43.124271,5.678166,38000,GWI18G
09:30:54Z.083 MCP/FMC ALT: 13008 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:54Z.096 T,3c6618,43.125295,5.678689,38000,GWI18G
09:30:54Z.676 T,3c6618,43.125961,5.679421,38000,GWI18G
09:30:55Z.156 T,3c6618,43.127157,5.680259,38000,GWI18G
09:30:55Z.397 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:55Z.453 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:55Z.636 T,3c6618,43.128367,5.681109,38025,GWI18G
09:30:56Z.186 T,3c6618,43.129211,5.681656,38025,GWI18G
09:30:56Z.707 T,3c6618,43.129898,5.682167,38000,GWI18G
09:30:57Z.267 T,3c6618,43.131626,5.683201,38000,GWI18G
09:30:57Z.312 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:57Z.836 T,3c6618,43.132507,5.684020,38000,GWI18G
09:30:58Z.050 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:30:58Z.296 T,3c6618,43.133011,5.684403,38000,GWI18G
09:30:58Z.767 T,3c6618,43.134559,5.685425,38000,GWI18G
09:30:59Z.216 T,3c6618,43.135397,5.685948,38000,GWI18G
09:30:59Z.746 T,3c6618,43.136261,5.686575,38000,GWI18G
09:30:59Z.988 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:00Z.146 T,3c6618,43.137451,5.687149,38000,GWI18G
09:31:00Z.165 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:00Z.676 T,3c6618,43.137817,5.687660,38000,GWI18G
09:31:01Z.676 T,3c6618,43.139866,5.689022,38000,GWI18G
09:31:02Z.027 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:02Z.238 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:02Z.496 T,3c6618,43.141402,5.690199,38000,GWI18G
09:31:03Z.030 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:03Z.456 T,3c6618,43.143494,5.691429,38000,GWI18G
09:31:04Z.376 T,3c6618,43.145731,5.692945,37975,GWI18G
09:31:04Z.943 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:05Z.346 T,3c6618,43.147430,5.693984,37975,GWI18G
09:31:05Z.558 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:05Z.993 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:06Z.466 T,3c6618,43.149828,5.695365,37975,GWI18G
09:31:07Z.164 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:07Z.346 T,3c6618,43.151367,5.696539,37950,GWI18G
09:31:08Z.256 T,3c6618,43.153427,5.697752,37950,GWI18G
09:31:08Z.776 T,3c6618,43.154111,5.698308,37925,GWI18G
09:31:09Z.276 T,3c6618,43.154995,5.698962,37925,GWI18G
09:31:09Z.712 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:09Z.960 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:10Z.326 T,3c6618,43.157364,5.700307,37925,GWI18G
09:31:11Z.312 MCP/FMC ALT: 96 ft QNH: 1006.0 hPa
09:31:11Z.467 T,3c6618,43.159607,5.701713,37900,GWI18G
 
Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

jaxxaj said:
tonea2003 said:
jaxxaj said:
Since when do terrorists just take their own lives ?

how do you read terrorist into what you've highlighted?

That's what the pilot was, another scumbag terrorist who killed 150 innocent lives. No need to portray him as anything else but a scumbag terrorist.

Edit: 149 innocent lives...

i know you are saying mate, but the true sense of the word he would have had to have a political purpose for his actions,
we don't know that yet
 
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Doubt very much it's terrorism but the Germans are investigating where he took a long break to last year
 
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blue underpants said:
Doubt very much it's terrorism but the Germans are investigating where he took a long break to last year

Bloody hell - hope it wasn't Syria.
 
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Horrible.

Can't imagine why anybody would want to bring down a whole plane of totally innocent people.
 

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