It's hardly the equivalent of awarding him European Footballer of the Year FFS. It's only a thread about a youngster who had a good game. Calm your jets big man.Tom_mcfc said:shikariblue said:Tom_mcfc said:I would have to be a very obsessed rag for bothering going to watch that crap last night
Mustn't have watched the same game as what most people saw then.
No because a youth team player needs to do very little in order to get hailed the next big thing. He looks ok, he doesn't deserve a whole thread of how amazing he is because he simply isn't. If he is to get anywhere near our team he needs to improve hugely.
MonkeyButler said:It's hardly the equivalent of awarding him European Footballer of the Year FFS. It's only a thread about a youngster who had a good game. Calm your jets big man.Maybe he will develop into a class act and maybe he won't. Time will tell. But on last night's showing he looks a good prospect.Tom_mcfc said:shikariblue said:Mustn't have watched the same game as what most people saw then.
No because a youth team player needs to do very little in order to get hailed the next big thing. He looks ok, he doesn't deserve a whole thread of how amazing he is because he simply isn't. If he is to get anywhere near our team he needs to improve hugely.
Santiago Street . said:Somebody make a list of players under 22 say who've played in the first team since the oil money arrived, we'll look at them, and I bet you at least 90% of them will be nowhere now.
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BlueJill said:Santiago Street . said:It's nice to stick up for a home grown kid who's come through the ranks blah bnlah blah, City blood in his veins, fabric o the club blah blah blah. Its all bollocks
He's not good enough. He got caught in possession loads of times, kept doing little feints before the ball arrived which they quickly cottoned on to and took the ball off him at will. Didn't excel at anything.
I'll be surprised if he ends up as good as Dickson Etuhu or even Ishmail Miller
He is not a home grown kid. We stole him from a lower tier team.
Well you sir will end up a single man in santiago.....'doung' .. . ? your own washing up and picking up zero kids....tut ...tutSantiago Street . said:BlueJill said:Santiago Street . said:It's nice to stick up for a home grown kid who's come through the ranks blah bnlah blah, City blood in his veins, fabric o the club blah blah blah. Its all bollocks
He's not good enough. He got caught in possession loads of times, kept doing little feints before the ball arrived which they quickly cottoned on to and took the ball off him at will. Didn't excel at anything.
I'll be surprised if he ends up as good as Dickson Etuhu or even Ishmail Miller
He is not a home grown kid. We stole him from a lower tier team.
Shouldn't you be on the school run or doung the washing up love ?
LoveCity said:Santiago Street . said:Somebody make a list of players under 22 say who've played in the first team since the oil money arrived, we'll look at them, and I bet you at least 90% of them will be nowhere now.
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Lets be brutally honest, most of the debuts Mancini has handed kids since taken over have been masturbatory - in that we have a proud history of giving academy kids debuts and adding them to a very long list we wave at other fans who doubt our academy.
But Razak - like Boyata - is a different case. He isn't there for an 18 second cameo like Chris Chantler got for his 20th birthday against Juventus. Razak is in the first team squad plans.
Players like Mee, Ibrahim, Vidal, Chantler, McGivern, and Wabara (who I rate but the point remains) were still firmly EDS members given a game for the feel-good factor of a kid getting a short run out or in one case because we had no options (Carling Cup vs. West Brom).
Razak is someone who is not being thrown back obscurity until he's dispatched to Rochdale or Burnley, he is here right now as a realistic first team option and will get games this season as he already has two appearances in this season alone and we have plenty of FA/Carling Cup games to come by the looks of it - plus he came off the bench for a PL game against Wigan, showing that even at 18 he's only a couple of injuries away from Premier League football for us.
Razak, I believe, is the only youth player who is a fixed first team squad member as he was on the team photo and no others were. Guidetti and Boyata would be but both are out on loan. All of the others may get chances here and there but are on EDS/academy duty otherwise. In the past few weeks Razak seems to have made that huge breakthrough and wasn't even played for the EDS against Barca because he was needed in the first team squad.