Adam Johnson guilty - 6 year sentence

So at 15 you're still a child and can be easily influenced but, a few months later, at 16 you're not? My point is that yes she was legally a child but only legally. Whether or not we can actually class her as a child who is too young to have sex is a different topic that cealry different countries differ about.



I understand his point but there's a difference between a lack of law and differences of law. The fact that there are differences regarding the legal age to have sex is enough to highlight that it isn't objective and that she was actually a child.

I've been 13, 14, 15 and I am a girl and I can tell you that we are inexperienced of life, boys, men, relationships, too trusting and easily manipulated. Adam Johnson had many more years experience and took advantage.
If you don't mind some 20 odd year old bloke coming to your house and trying to stick his nob in your 13/14 year old daughter then you have big problems and aren't mentally mature enough to see why it's fucking wrong.
 
Just watched SSN. He was first story on. No coverage of him playing football, just a brief summing up of the offences he's pleaded guilty and not guilty to. They did mention that he plays for Sunderland following his transfer from Manchester City in 2012.
Looks like the PR team got on the phone to them then as they changed it.
 
That isn't morally ambigious though, is it? That's what I'm saying. By the fact that no countries or socieities legalise beastiality or necrophelia is clear indication that there is something unarguably wrong with those acts. The fact that the age of having sex differs all over the world including in our continient means it is clearly up for debate that you it isn't.
Plenty of countries make bestiality legal. Germany only made it illegal last year I remember seeing on the news.
 
No it's not the same. It may be the same offence based on our legal system, but it clearly isn't the same. Driving at 77mph makes you a dangerous person on the road, driving at 33mph makes you rather careless. Johnson is an idiot as you've stated, but I wouldn't class him as vile person as others have.
What the fuck are you drinking mate? You cannot be serious at all, please tell me you arent.
 
This is what irritates me with "age"
You can have a human being who is say 12yrs old but is far more physically and mentally developed than another human being who is 18.
I was sexually exploring from the age of 7, lost my virginity in my early teens.
Girls at my school were getting pregnant at 12/13yrs old.
Luckily for me I was paying attention in sex education classes and wore a condom.
What I'm saying is there are human beings out there who are "legally" still children yet are way more physically and mentally developed than other people who are of the legal consenting age.

I'm not justifying AJ's actions, I just think he was a stupid idiot. Time will tell I guess.
This girl may of been child like and not mentally/physically ready for sexual activity. I don't know.

But to group anyone and everyone together is also idiotic.
Example -
Everyone who is 16+ is ready for sex.
Everyone who's had sex with what we class as "legally" a child is a paedophile.
 
So at 15 you're still a child and can be easily influenced but, a few months later, at 16 you're not? My point is that yes she was legally a child but only legally. Whether or not we can actually class her as a child who is too young to have sex is a different topic that cealry different countries differ about.



I understand his point but there's a difference between a lack of law and differences of law. The fact that there are differences regarding the legal age to have sex is enough to highlight that it isn't objective and that she was actually a child.

Oh for fucks sake. There has to be a line drawn somewhere and laws put in place to protect children. Quibbling about where that line is seems ridiculous too me and shows little empathy for the abused in this case.
 
If my understanding is correct you can have sex with a person under the age of 16 if you are not older than 18? I do not think this law was made so horny men in their 20s and upwards can start proposing children. I think the law dealt with the reality of 15 year olds having 17 year old boyfriends which is very rational. What you are defending is an adult well past his 20s who has a partner as well as resources that would allow him access to the finest women in the world should knowingly persue a child and groom her into sexual acts. This is fine because in Germsny a 15 year old can legally have sex with her 17 year old boyfriend? There is something wrong with a mind that even tries to defend this.

The first reaction of any "normal" adult is disgust so the fact that you are able to find wiggle room to normalise this behaviour and cite foreign laws makes think there is personal intrest in this for you. When I think of who I want in my bed I'm not thinking of someone with 1D posters on their wall and was born 3 years before Facebook was formed. He is a pedophile because he is attracted to minors.

Firstly, before your indirect accusations at me, I am a 18-year-old. Saying that, however, I can rationalise it because it hard to point out why it is objectively wrong when countries differ. We are not in the stone age when it comes to morality so the fact that other countries, namely European countries differ on such an issue is indiciation that it is up for debate like I said. Furthermore, I personally find it ridiculous that there is nothing legally wrong with a 50 year-old man getting with a 16 year-old yet there legal consequences with a 19 year-old getting with a 15 year-old. For me, there is something way more criminal in the former one but our legal system cannot provide moral excellence. I cannot justify why at 15 you are classed as an inexperienced child but at 16, you are okay do basically do as you please. If there is something wrong with having sex at 15, then, for me, there is something wrong with having sex at 16 too which means there is something wrong with out legal system.
 

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