Damocles said:hgblue said:alera said:Better we lose the 3 million and keep some respect I say.
So people are going to be happy loaning tevez to inter or some club in brazil because that is what is coming next if we go down this road.
If it's happening fine there is nothing we can do about it but at least be honest and say it how it is. You can't put lipstick on a pig.
Ideally we'd like to sell the likes of Tevez and Adebayor. Unfortunately it seems there aren't any buyers out there. Therefore, a loan is the next best option because it:
1. Removes the wages (or a portion thereof) off the wage bill.
2. Removes an unhappy player from the squad.
3. Puts the player in the shop window for another potential buyer when the loan period ends.
Adebayor's wages do not currently count in FFP calculations. If we loaned him out and paid half, they WOULD be countable in FFP calculations.
Us loaning him to Spurs, in reality, would mean that we would loan a top striker to a rival and we would pay for the privilege.
This is why this is a load of shit.
BoyBlue_1985 said:Damocles said:hgblue said:Ideally we'd like to sell the likes of Tevez and Adebayor. Unfortunately it seems there aren't any buyers out there. Therefore, a loan is the next best option because it:
1. Removes the wages (or a portion thereof) off the wage bill.
2. Removes an unhappy player from the squad.
3. Puts the player in the shop window for another potential buyer when the loan period ends.
Adebayor's wages do not currently count in FFP calculations. If we loaned him out and paid half, they WOULD be countable in FFP calculations.
Us loaning him to Spurs, in reality, would mean that we would loan a top striker to a rival and we would pay for the privilege.
This is why this is a load of shit.
Im not sure your right here Damocles, we would have to alter/change his contract for them to be countable. Technically his contract doesnt change, we still pay him 160k a week and Spurs compensate us with the agreed amount
Bet what you like i honestly dont care what he is on but its widely reported by everyone on earth thats what he earnswaspish said:BoyBlue_1985 said:Damocles said:Adebayor's wages do not currently count in FFP calculations. If we loaned him out and paid half, they WOULD be countable in FFP calculations.
Us loaning him to Spurs, in reality, would mean that we would loan a top striker to a rival and we would pay for the privilege.
This is why this is a load of shit.
Im not sure your right here Damocles, we would have to alter/change his contract for them to be countable. Technically his contract doesnt change, we still pay him 160k a week and Spurs compensate us with the agreed amount
How does anyone know he's on 160k a week? Don't forget at Arsenal he would've been on about 40 to 60k a week. I bet it's more like 90k to 120k a week.
jjeangi said:You're seriously shitting yourself over Adebayor going to Spurs?
avoidconfusion said:jjeangi said:You're seriously shitting yourself over Adebayor going to Spurs?
No I am not "shitting" myself and I think looking at your other posts, it would be beneficial for everyone if you simmer down a bit, mate. No need to tell Alera, someone who has been on this forum much longer than you, to "fuck off" either.
All I am saying is that it will definitely strengthen Spurs and it is completely unnecessary. His wages do not count towards FFPR so what good is it for us to save 5m in wages or whatever it is, if it strengthens one of the competitors for the Top 4 position?
They are not competitors to us for a top 4 position though and if he takes points off OUR competitors for top 2 then it's a bonus.avoidconfusion said:jjeangi said:You're seriously shitting yourself over Adebayor going to Spurs?
No I am not "shitting" myself and I think looking at your other posts, it would be beneficial for everyone if you simmer down a bit, mate. No need to tell Alera, someone who has been on this forum much longer than you, to "fuck off" either.
All I am saying is that it will definitely strengthen Spurs and it is completely unnecessary. His wages do not count towards FFPR so what good is it for us to save 5m in wages or whatever it is, if it strengthens one of the competitors for the Top 4 position?
BoyBlue_1985 said:Bet what you like i honestly dont care what he is on but its widely reported by everyone on earth thats what he earnswaspish said:BoyBlue_1985 said:Im not sure your right here Damocles, we would have to alter/change his contract for them to be countable. Technically his contract doesnt change, we still pay him 160k a week and Spurs compensate us with the agreed amount
How does anyone know he's on 160k a week? Don't forget at Arsenal he would've been on about 40 to 60k a week. I bet it's more like 90k to 120k a week.
But One striker who won’t be taking part in all the fun is Emmanuel Adebayor, who has been lined up by Tottenham.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp admitted his club are in talks with City, but there are several hurdles to overcome if he is to move to north London.
His £160,000-a-week wages are one, as Spurs will not come close to matching that, while City are loath to let a £25m buy go for a song and are unlikely to sanction a loan deal. Redknapp said: “The chairman is talking to City but where the negotiations are at, I genuinely don’t know.”
Adebayor had been holding out for a move to Real Madrid, where he spent the second half of last season on loan – and ironically had his highlight by scoring twice against Tottenham in the Champions League.
But Madrid manager Jose Mourinho seemingly went cold on the idea, leaving Adebayor to turn his intentions back to the Premier League.
Spurs have this week off-loaded Robbie Keane to Los Angeles Galaxy, leaving a space for a striker.
SWP's back said:They are not competitors to us for a top 4 position though and if he takes points off OUR competitors for top 2 then it's a bonus.avoidconfusion said:jjeangi said:You're seriously shitting yourself over Adebayor going to Spurs?
No I am not "shitting" myself and I think looking at your other posts, it would be beneficial for everyone if you simmer down a bit, mate. No need to tell Alera, someone who has been on this forum much longer than you, to "fuck off" either.
All I am saying is that it will definitely strengthen Spurs and it is completely unnecessary. His wages do not count towards FFPR so what good is it for us to save 5m in wages or whatever it is, if it strengthens one of the competitors for the Top 4 position?
Whilst I have no issues with the article, are you being funny saying that the MEN have "ins" at City?alera said:Well the MEN has now spoken on this issue. They are usually the most accurate press source and clearly have several "Ins" at the club :
But One striker who won’t be taking part in all the fun is Emmanuel Adebayor, who has been lined up by Tottenham.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp admitted his club are in talks with City, but there are several hurdles to overcome if he is to move to north London.
His £160,000-a-week wages are one, as Spurs will not come close to matching that, while City are loath to let a £25m buy go for a song and are unlikely to sanction a loan deal. Redknapp said: “The chairman is talking to City but where the negotiations are at, I genuinely don’t know.”
Adebayor had been holding out for a move to Real Madrid, where he spent the second half of last season on loan – and ironically had his highlight by scoring twice against Tottenham in the Champions League.
But Madrid manager Jose Mourinho seemingly went cold on the idea, leaving Adebayor to turn his intentions back to the Premier League.
Spurs have this week off-loaded Robbie Keane to Los Angeles Galaxy, leaving a space for a striker.
So there we have it. I am back to calling bullshit smokescreen to draw interest from other clubs out. Unless spurs are going to pony up some sort of reasonable fee or swap for a player we want....
alera said:Well the MEN has now spoken on this issue. They are usually the most accurate press source and clearly have several "Ins" at the club :
But One striker who won’t be taking part in all the fun is Emmanuel Adebayor, who has been lined up by Tottenham.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp admitted his club are in talks with City, but there are several hurdles to overcome if he is to move to north London.
His £160,000-a-week wages are one, as Spurs will not come close to matching that, while City are loath to let a £25m buy go for a song and are unlikely to sanction a loan deal. Redknapp said: “The chairman is talking to City but where the negotiations are at, I genuinely don’t know.”
Adebayor had been holding out for a move to Real Madrid, where he spent the second half of last season on loan – and ironically had his highlight by scoring twice against Tottenham in the Champions League.
But Madrid manager Jose Mourinho seemingly went cold on the idea, leaving Adebayor to turn his intentions back to the Premier League.
Spurs have this week off-loaded Robbie Keane to Los Angeles Galaxy, leaving a space for a striker.
So there we have it. I am back to calling bullshit smokescreen to draw interest from other clubs out. Unless spurs are going to pony up some sort of reasonable fee or swap for a player we want....
Your opinion mate and one I don't share.Big Dave Watson said:SWP's back said:They are not competitors to us for a top 4 position though and if he takes points off OUR competitors for top 2 then it's a bonus.avoidconfusion said:No I am not "shitting" myself and I think looking at your other posts, it would be beneficial for everyone if you simmer down a bit, mate. No need to tell Alera, someone who has been on this forum much longer than you, to "fuck off" either.
All I am saying is that it will definitely strengthen Spurs and it is completely unnecessary. His wages do not count towards FFPR so what good is it for us to save 5m in wages or whatever it is, if it strengthens one of the competitors for the Top 4 position?
Of course they are. They are a good side. Last season they fell away because of a few home draws towards the end of the season coupled with that 'goal' Chelsea scored and the fact we improved after being knocked out of Europe. Yes we should be better given our srengthening but dont assume that they wont have a better season this time around without the distraction of CL.
alera said:MEN still have a decent relationship with the club IMO and you tend to get a more realistic view and information as regards transfers. All be it they dont get the info as quickly as they once did.
I would take what is written in there over the tabloids anyday that just print any old bullshit.
Same goes for GMR with Cheeseman he is definately well liked around the club.
alera said:MEN still have a decent relationship with the club IMO and you tend to get a more realistic view and information as regards transfers. All be it they dont get the info as quickly as they once did.
I would take what is written in there over the tabloids anyday that just print any old bullshit.
Same goes for GMR with Cheeseman he is definately well liked around the club.
hgblue said:Damocles said:hgblue said:Ideally we'd like to sell the likes of Tevez and Adebayor. Unfortunately it seems there aren't any buyers out there. Therefore, a loan is the next best option because it:
1. Removes the wages (or a portion thereof) off the wage bill.
2. Removes an unhappy player from the squad.
3. Puts the player in the shop window for another potential buyer when the loan period ends.
Adebayor's wages do not currently count in FFP calculations. If we loaned him out and paid half, they WOULD be countable in FFP calculations.
Us loaning him to Spurs, in reality, would mean that we would loan a top striker to a rival and we would pay for the privilege.
This is why this is a load of shit.
Not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that reports that we will be paying half of Adebayor's wages are a load of shit? Or are you saying that paying half of Adebayor's wages is a load of shit?