Adebayor to Spurs

Arsene said:
And if they say no? The truth is Spurs knows City wanna get rid off him desperately and no one can match his wages. There isnt team coming in for him except for Spurs. Even Real Madrid dont seem to be interested anymore. So Spurs knows they can wait to the last couple of days of the window and say we take him on loan and pay half of his wages......Thats still far better than he stays with you and play no football for months
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Bend over for Spurs, we bend over for every club that wants to rip us off. Play hardball now and every club will know that if they want one of our players they can't take the piss (too much).

Personally I suspect Madrid will come in for Ade in the last day or so, and I'd be happy to give him away to them for free than give Spurs a leg up.
 
I really don't care if we let him go for free. It will save us loads on salary.

But the loss we incur will impact us badly for FFP. That's a £15m loss. If the Spuds would pay us just £8m that would be fantastic.
 
moomba said:
Arsene said:
And if they say no? The truth is Spurs knows City wanna get rid off him desperately and no one can match his wages. There isnt team coming in for him except for Spurs. Even Real Madrid dont seem to be interested anymore. So Spurs knows they can wait to the last couple of days of the window and say we take him on loan and pay half of his wages......Thats still far better than he stays with you and play no football for months
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Bend over for Spurs, we bend over for every club that wants to rip us off. Play hardball now and every club will know that if they want one of our players they can't take the piss (too much).

Personally I suspect Madrid will come in for Ade in the last day or so, and I'd be happy to give him away to them for free than give Spurs a leg up.
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Its not bending over though. Adebayor is on massive wage and contributes nothing to the club. You cant let your pride stand in the way just to make a point, when it makes absolutely no sense. Its not like he's even a squad player.....he wont be named in the 25 man squad. Guys like Adebayor, Bellamy and Bridge or on contracts no one will match, so there's no way City can get rid of them without taking a hit
 
And if they say no? The truth is Spurs knows City wanna get rid off him desperately and no one can match his wages. There isnt team coming in for him except for Spurs. Even Real Madrid dont seem to be interested anymore. So Spurs knows they can wait to the last couple of days of the window and say we take him on loan and pay half of his wages......Thats still far better than he stays with you and play no football for months
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Well they desperately need a striker. If they want to buy one they really have to open the checkbook because a good striker is no less than 20-25 m or even more.
Adebayor is PL proven. He is comfortable in North-London.:)
He could be a right hit with Spurs and simply better quality than Crouch, Defoe.

Adebayor also knows he has to leave in order to play. He has frozen out with Mancini so he wont play again in City. His career is on stake. He thought Madrid will come for him but it seems like they dont care about Ade. It is a big hit in the face for him. "Mourinho likes me, he wants me".
(Just like for Tevez who thought the same that teams will be bidding for him well no single team came up with a reasonable offer and it is only 10 days more from the transfer window.)

So Spurs is in a special situation, Adebayor is in the same and yes City should get rid off Ade too.

Pay half of his wage and give us a loan fee, it should be 2.5-3 m pounds. That's what you pay for a striker for one year. If it's not good than buy a new striker for 25 m. Who will have big wages too.
But if Ade wont come good they can send him back end of the season. Small risk for them.

And finally if they only want to pay 65k/week or so and City has to pay the majority of his wages while he makes our rival stronger. No.

I say again Bellamy would be already at Cardiff in this case.
 
Apparently it's in tomorrow's paper (didn't catch which one) that we have offered to allow him to go to Spures permanently, on a free transfer, provided they (Spures) agree to pay all his wages.

I know it will cost a few quid to pay up his contract, but can see no other alternative, as, according to Roberto, (in an interview he gave a couple of days back) we really need to start moving some of the deadwood out, to enable us to buy, before the window shuts.

As to whether, that notorious tight-wad, Daniel Levy will agree to such a deal, (at least not before a minute to midnight on August the 31st,- judging by his recent record), I seriously doubt.
 
did i read right that players bought in the hughes era dont count towards the ffp? if so throw all of them in with the kids, they will soon tire of not playing and will take any wage any club offer.
 
Arsene said:
moomba said:
Arsene said:
And if they say no? The truth is Spurs knows City wanna get rid off him desperately and no one can match his wages. There isnt team coming in for him except for Spurs. Even Real Madrid dont seem to be interested anymore. So Spurs knows they can wait to the last couple of days of the window and say we take him on loan and pay half of his wages......Thats still far better than he stays with you and play no football for months
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Bend over for Spurs, we bend over for every club that wants to rip us off. Play hardball now and every club will know that if they want one of our players they can't take the piss (too much).

Personally I suspect Madrid will come in for Ade in the last day or so, and I'd be happy to give him away to them for free than give Spurs a leg up.
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Its not bending over though. Adebayor is on massive wage and contributes nothing to the club. You cant let your pride stand in the way just to make a point, when it makes absolutely no sense. Its not like he's even a squad player.....he wont be named in the 25 man squad. Guys like Adebayor, Bellamy and Bridge or on contracts no one will match, so there's no way City can get rid of them without taking a hit
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you mean like arsene
 
I dont know why people are laughing at the thought of us giving him a free transfer,i dont even reckon any takers at that if he sticks to his £175'000 waged demand.
 
The cookie monster said:
I dont know why people are laughing at the thought of us giving him a free transfer,i dont even reckon any takers at that if he sticks to his £175'000 waged demand.
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Is it not the same as the Sol Campbell deal that took him to Arsenal? That was a free, and they paid a shit load of wages (in those days) as they had saved on a transfer fee.
 
malg said:
The cookie monster said:
I dont know why people are laughing at the thought of us giving him a free transfer,i dont even reckon any takers at that if he sticks to his £175'000 waged demand.
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Is it not the same as the Sol Campbell deal that took him to Arsenal? That was a free, and they paid a shit load of wages (in those days) as they had saved on a transfer fee.
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He was on 100k then, same thing can happen with Adebayor. he can sign 80k a week deal and just get massive signing on fee like 7-8 million. Financially its still a great deal for Spurs as it would be like buying someone of Adebayors class for 8 million on 80k wage and you wont have someone earning alot more than the rest and get players ask for wage rise
 
Surely the answer is for Arsenal to just take him back, return the £25m we paid for him and we pretend the whole affair never happened. After all, things going wrong for Arsenal all started with when he and Kolo left.
 
Harry says that he wants Adebayor on loan so that City can pay half his wages. Spurs cannot afford to break their wages structure and therefore Adebayor will not be sold unless he accepts a massive pay cut, which seems unlikely.
 
I thought RM had offered us around 6 mill - why was this turned down (if true) then we let him go for free. Doesn't make sense and would make the board look stupid.

Adebayor for all Mancini doesn't want him was playing in RM first team last season - probably a tea seen by the world as better than ours.
 
lionheart said:
Harry says that he wants Adebayor on loan so that City can pay half his wages. Spurs cannot afford to break their wages structure and therefore Adebayor will not be sold unless he accepts a massive pay cut, which seems unlikely.
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Where did Harry say City would pay half the wages ? I don't believe there's a chance in hell of this happening. A free transfer would be more likely imo as we write off big wages. We gain nothing from paying his wages at Spurs.

Perhaps we could loan him initially with the deal becoming permanent at Christmas, thus he can't play against us.
 
They wont take him permanent as thats £30 million in wages over the next 3 seasons even if its on a free. That said he is a £30 million player when he feels like it which is not often.

The latest line is they want a loan for the season but wont break there wages structure so will make a one off payment to the player to cover the difference or give us an extra loan fee to give the player to cover the difference in wages.

Really its daft to do any deal like this at all especially with Spurs, its the message it sends out to players, agents and other clubs.

We made the mistake of giving Hughes the job in the first place. We made the mistake of giving him all that money to sign shit players on stupid contacts and stupid wages.

We should take the punishment but in such a way it doesnt cause a risk to our future progression. If its got to be a loan like this it should be outside the league or else we should just pay the money for them to sit round doing nothing. It doesnt go towards FFP anyway but it down to experience and make an example out of them.

No one but ourselves to blame for signing all this shit in the first place.

On a side note Diarra is on £85k after tax apparently. With the UK upper tax rate of 50% and NI thats around £127,000 + a week. I note that Real Madrid are still getting a permanent deal for around £8 - £10 million.

Why is that ? because Real Madrid are not looked on like pussies in the market that can have the piss taken out of them. If we go for a deal like this with Spurs even if they pay the wages watch what happens with Tevez and the other players we have to get rid of. People dont seem to understand the concept of perception and one action having an effect on another.
 
alera said:
They wont take him permanent as thats £30 million in wages over the next 3 seasons even if its on a free. That said he is a £30 million player when he feels like it which is not often.

The latest line is they want a loan for the season but wont break there wages structure so will make a one off payment to the player to cover the difference or give us an extra loan fee to give the player to cover the difference in wages.

Really its daft to do any deal like this at all especially with Spurs, its the message it sends out to players, agents and other clubs.

We made the mistake of giving Hughes the job in the first place. We made the mistake of giving him all that money to sign shit players on stupid contacts and stupid wages.
We should take the punishment but in such a way it doesnt cause a risk to our future progression. If its got to be a loan like this it should be outside the league or else we should just pay the money for them to sit round doing nothing. It doesnt go towards FFP anyway but it down to experience and make an example out of them.

No one but ourselves to blame for signing all this shit in the first place.

On a side note Diarra is on £85k after tax apparently. With the UK upper tax rate of 50% and NI thats around £127,000 + a week. I note that Real Madrid are still getting a permanent deal for around £8 - £10 million.

Why is that ? because Real Madrid are not looked on like pussies in the market that can have the piss taken out of them. If we go for a deal like this with Spurs even if they pay the wages watch what happens with Tevez and the other players we have to get rid of. People dont seem to understand the concept of perception and one action having an effect on another.
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While not wishing to defend Hughes, this was not down to him.

The deals were done by pretty much the same people that are doing the deals now!

Fair's fair. People are responsible for their own actions, and I'm almost certain Hughes did not negotiate the deals.

If he did, what the fuck are we employing Cook, Marwood et al for then?
 
The club valued Hughes opinion too much honestly. He might not be writing up the contract, but he was banging on the door from the outside. This is why Bobby is having a harder time singing players. The upper echelons are gun shy from a repeat experience.
 
Soulboy said:
alera said:
They wont take him permanent as thats £30 million in wages over the next 3 seasons even if its on a free. That said he is a £30 million player when he feels like it which is not often.

The latest line is they want a loan for the season but wont break there wages structure so will make a one off payment to the player to cover the difference or give us an extra loan fee to give the player to cover the difference in wages.

Really its daft to do any deal like this at all especially with Spurs, its the message it sends out to players, agents and other clubs.

We made the mistake of giving Hughes the job in the first place. We made the mistake of giving him all that money to sign shit players on stupid contacts and stupid wages.
We should take the punishment but in such a way it doesnt cause a risk to our future progression. If its got to be a loan like this it should be outside the league or else we should just pay the money for them to sit round doing nothing. It doesnt go towards FFP anyway but it down to experience and make an example out of them.

No one but ourselves to blame for signing all this shit in the first place.

On a side note Diarra is on £85k after tax apparently. With the UK upper tax rate of 50% and NI thats around £127,000 + a week. I note that Real Madrid are still getting a permanent deal for around £8 - £10 million.

Why is that ? because Real Madrid are not looked on like pussies in the market that can have the piss taken out of them. If we go for a deal like this with Spurs even if they pay the wages watch what happens with Tevez and the other players we have to get rid of. People dont seem to understand the concept of perception and one action having an effect on another.
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While not wishing to defend Hughes, this was not down to him.

The deals were done by pretty much the same people that are doing the deals now!

Fair's fair. People are responsible for their own actions, and I'm almost certain Hughes did not negotiate the deals.

If he did, what the fuck are we employing Cook, Marwood et al for then?
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Hughes was out of his depth but you are spot on when saying he is not the one that signed the cheques at the end of the day and others have to hold their hands up.
 
I'm not sure it is right to blame anyone. When our new owners took over, wee were nowhere. Virtually all our early signings were hasty acquisitions for which we overpaid simply to get them to the club with a view to progressing to the next stage.

Whatever we think of them in realtion to our current squad the likes of Robinho, Adebayor and Bellamy were a serious step up on what we had. They fulfilled that first target by taking us to the verge of the Champions League. In short, they were stepping stones taking us to where we want to be. Indeed, that goes for all our players and will always be the case. I don't blame them for getting what they can, nor do I blame anyone for bringing them in on terms that we can't get rid of them. Time will sort all this out.

Now as for Hughes bringing in Crocky.......
 
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