After Mancini would we prefer Pep or Jose for City's manager

[SWP's back]

It's awesome when people call 3 time Serie A winner, CL quarter finalist (and that was a travesty), and 4 time Coppa Italia 'a banger'. Reminding yourself that he's not exactly old either, being only 46.

What exactly are people like O'Neill and Redknapp then?

The complete bile and lack of respect shown to Mancini here is unbearable at times.

dont get wound up about it mate...it's a forum made up of differing opinions ;)

btw...respect has to be earned and mancini has done nothing to warrant that with some of our fans

To follow that would be to suggest that Mourinho has done nothing to earn the respect of Man City fans.

Or can you count trophies won at other clubs/leagues only if you are not the current City manager.

Let him have his full season before you judge what he has won here.

 

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't say it's 'Mou-sucking' he's clearly an incredible manager.

Ah, but 99% on this thread are immediately opting for Mourinho - even though Pep has created the best football team in the history of the game.

And no, it's not a case of just picking 11 great players and letting them play - Real clearly have the better team on paper. The way Guardiola has shaped Barca's tactics is incredibly innovative, and there's no-one coming close to him at the minute.

Don't want to get into the whole Pep/Mou/Mancini debate - but just wanted to point out Pep didn't actually do anything to shape Barca's tactics. Their style of play was implemented by Cruyff and was a continuation of Rinus Michel's Dutch 'total football' philosophy. Cruyff believed that the entire club needed to implement this particular style and so he set about making sure everyone from the child/youth teams upwards were schooled in this way.

 

[taconinja]

dont get wound up about it mate...it's a forum made up of differing opinions ;)

btw...respect has to be earned and mancini has done nothing to warrant that with some of our fans

Wait. What respect has Mourinho earned considering how he leveraged City's interest in him to get the Real job? Using us and then telling us to go screw ourselves is earning respect?

 

[samharris]

dont get wound up about it mate...it's a forum made up of differing opinions ;)

btw...respect has to be earned and mancini has done nothing to warrant that with some of our fans

Wait. What respect has Mourinho earned considering how he leveraged City's interest in him to get the Real job? Using us and then telling us to go screw ourselves is earning respect?

Thats why he wont be invited to the party :)

 

[without a dream]

Ah, but 99% on this thread are immediately opting for Mourinho - even though Pep has created the best football team in the history of the game.

And no, it's not a case of just picking 11 great players and letting them play - Real clearly have the better team on paper. The way Guardiola has shaped Barca's tactics is incredibly innovative, and there's no-one coming close to him at the minute.

Don't want to get into the whole Pep/Mou/Mancini debate - but just wanted to point out Pep didn't actually do anything to shape Barca's tactics. Their style of play was implemented by Cruyff and was a continuation of Rinus Michel's Dutch 'total football' philosophy. Cruyff believed that the entire club needed to implement this particular style and so he set about making sure everyone from the child/youth teams upwards were schooled in this way.

Of course it is, to say Pep didn't tweak the way Barca played when he came in is disingenuous though.

 

[ST Coleridge]

Don't want to get into the whole Pep/Mou/Mancini debate - but just wanted to point out Pep didn't actually do anything to shape Barca's tactics. Their style of play was implemented by Cruyff and was a continuation of Rinus Michel's Dutch 'total football' philosophy. Cruyff believed that the entire club needed to implement this particular style and so he set about making sure everyone from the child/youth teams upwards were schooled in this way.

Yes Billy, we all know about the Dutch roots - but just look at how much the team style has progressed since Rijkaard's departure. There's loads of key things that Guardiola has introduced, to frightening effect -

* Starting Messi as the centre-forward, thus creating space for Villa/Pedro when he withdraws.
* Having both fullbacks push on, then having Pique and Puyol split and Busquets slot into the middle to create a back three.
* Insane forward pressing - they were never so energetic under previous regimes.

He's also refined that which was already in place - they're more patient with the ball, even more focused on retaining possession. And this is all without big signings - he'd rather have a well-drilled Busquets and Pedro than Ibrahimovic or Mascherano.

Mourinho's got a great CV, but loads of managers have great CVs. Only Mr. Peppy Pep can claim to have coached the greatest side everrrrrr.

 

[shadygiz]

dont get wound up about it mate...it's a forum made up of differing opinions ;)

btw...respect has to be earned and mancini has done nothing to warrant that with some of our fans

Wait. What respect has Mourinho earned considering how he leveraged City's interest in him to get the Real job? Using us and then telling us to go screw ourselves is earning respect?

i haven't mentioned mourinho have i??

 

[johnny crossan]

The complete bile and lack of respect shown to Mancini here is unbearable at times.

btw...respect has to be earned and mancini has done nothing to warrant that with some of our fans

QED Damo

 

[Anonymous]

Guys, c'mon. I could've 'tweaked' if I had the raw materials of Xani, Iniesta, Messi, Puyol, Pique, Abidal, Alves etc... and the likes of Pedro and Busquets coming through the academy. I'm not being disingenuous, I just don't think crediting Pep with Barca's 'style' of play is entirely fair...as I say, it's a philosophy which was drilled into them from youth team level. That's not in any way shape or form trying to belittle what Pep has achieved and certainly I think he's a top coach - I'd however hazard a guess that he'd have struggled to have won the CL with last season's Inter squad...

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Guys, c'mon. I could've 'tweaked' if I had the raw materials of Xani, Iniesta, Messi, Puyol, Pique, Abidal, Alves etc... and the likes of Pedro and Busquets coming through the academy. I'm not being disingenuous, I just don't think crediting Pep with Barca's 'style' of play is entirely fair...as I say, it's a philosophy which was drilled into them from youth team level. That's not in any way shape or form trying to belittle what Pep has achieved and certainly I think he's a top coach - I'd however hazard a guess that he'd have struggled to have won the CL with last season's Inter squad...

we'll never know, but he got payback for Mourinho's anti football did he not...