Alan Henning has been beheaded

[marco]

Seems logical

kidnap westerner get ransom buy guns

kill people and if a country stands up to you kidnap someone and they will leave you alone

create state, buy more guns enlarge state, kidnap more people so no one fights against you

no aid for the middle east as westerners don't go there, unfortunately some people in the west and elsewhere see humans as humans and will go there regardless, there will always be people to kidnap and paying a ransom is self defeating

In order to buy weapons, someone must sell them weapons. That 'someone' is usually the West. I even think the Black Market would think twice about selling sh*t to these Clowns.

Good people that see suffering may just have to wait to do good.

I hate the thought, but to save a life, ideally you should live.

France, Germany, Turkey etc have all paid ransoms and had their citizens freed. That is fact. UK and US refuse and so sit back to see their citizens beheaded. As I said, dont think the Establishment give a fuck about any of us inclu victims like Alan Henning.

paying ransoms does not work long term, even if ISIS is defeated it will rear its head in another form and it goes on and on because they have a victim that has a value

 

[tweetstreet]

Is it inevitable that allied ground troops will be sent in soon?

With so many countrys now involved wouldnt an allied task force with a certain amount of troops from each nation soon overrun IS?

 

[moggymoz]

Just supposing they eventually took over Syria and Iraq and had their "Islamic State", do you really think they would stop there?....Serious question.

Did Hitler stop at Austria?

Well... Can any of you naysayers answer this ^^^

A 'naysayer' already answered it pages back...

Do tell...

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Seems logical

kidnap westerner get ransom buy guns

kill people and if a country stands up to you kidnap someone and they will leave you alone

create state, buy more guns enlarge state, kidnap more people so no one fights against you

no aid for the middle east as westerners don't go there, unfortunately some people in the west and elsewhere see humans as humans and will go there regardless, there will always be people to kidnap and paying a ransom is self defeating

In order to buy weapons, someone must sell them weapons. That 'someone' is usually the West. I even think the Black Market would think twice about selling sh*t to these Clowns.

Good people that see suffering may just have to wait to do good.

I hate the thought, but to save a life, ideally you should live.

France, Germany, Turkey etc have all paid ransoms and had their citizens freed. That is fact. UK and US refuse and so sit back to see their citizens beheaded. As I said, dont think the Establishment give a fuck about any of us inclu victims like Alan Henning.

Bollocks have they. Absolute bollocks.

 

[-nibz-]

Just supposing they eventually took over Syria and Iraq and had their "Islamic State", do you really think they would stop there?....Serious question.

Did Hitler stop at Austria?

Well... Can any of you naysayers answer this ^^^

Well for one their intentions are further west, though they wont get as far as taking Baghdad as most of them will be wiped out by then

 

[Ducado]

People are too angry to soak in what you're saying. I posted a similar viewpoint a couple of pages back.

I get it, itk, it's the same wash, rinse, repeat cycle as always.

These people have to be stopped by whatever means possible

They are murdering scum, life to them means nothing, they are the antithesis of all that decent people believe in

And if they get stronger and stronger and end up in control of ME oil, the west is fucked, completely fucked

My utter and complete sympathies to the family of Mr Henning.

You cannot defeat religious inspired ideology of Holy War with Military means, it aint happening.

If it were possible then Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc etc would not be in the state they are.

Tell me is the Middle East better and more stable now than before Blair and Bush started their invasions? Hosni Mubarak warned Bush before the Iraq war,do not invade because you will open the gates of hell. Pretty accurate imo. The Middle East is a basket case, its cost us a fortune in money and lives. Death for Jihadists is what they seek, they want either victory or to be a matyr a shaheed. They are not working class boys enlisting in the Army, for a career.

I disagree, you may be right about not defeating it in terms of destroying a belief, you can however certainly degrade the potential to do harm, ISIL is a monster that has gotten out of control, it is also naive to think that the vast majority of it's so called members are actually hard core jihadists, the majority in Iraq appear to be made up of disaffected ex Baath party members and ex Iraqi militery personnel who were dismissed by the previous regime, in Syria it's slightly different, they have been on a roll since getting their hands on a good proportion of the Iraqi armies hardware it won't last forever and the arms that are flooding into Kurdistan will soon see large parts of Northern Iraq liberated, they will be squeezed into teh middle of Iraq in a few month

 

[intheknow!]

Is it inevitable that allied ground troops will be sent in soon?

With so many countrys now involved wouldnt an allied task force with a certain amount of troops from each nation soon overrun IS?

No, was tried in Iraq and Afghanistan. Doesnt work. The Taliban are gaining strength again.

Do you all know that last month in Iran a man was hung for the crime of "innovations in the religion", he had said that the story of Jonah in the Koran was symbolic not literal.

This year Saudi Arabi have beheaded 59 people for "crimes" such as sourcery, witchcraft and adultery.

Israel killed over 2000 Palestinians and injured many thousands more only a couple of months ago. The vast majority were innocent men,women and children.

Why are these countries our best friends but IS are beyond the pale?

 

[Rascal]

give em an inch they take a yard, give them fuk all

Why because they are muslims?

Who want a free state of there own of there own that they havent had since the times of Saladin....you know who Saladin is dont you?

there not muslims matey there fucking scum of the earth

No they are muslims and they want a state that espouses muslim values in the homeland of muslims.

A handful have behaved appallingly towards westerners and clouded the issue, the perpertatrors of such abomiantions have and should be held responsible for it.

But if they feel self determination on grounds of there ideals is worth fighting for what makes them any different to any freedom fighters in history?


As i see it the problem the west has is no loner commands soft power. we no longer influence mainstream thought. We just bomb stuff.

 

[Bigga]

Seems logical

kidnap westerner get ransom buy guns

kill people and if a country stands up to you kidnap someone and they will leave you alone

create state, buy more guns enlarge state, kidnap more people so no one fights against you

no aid for the middle east as westerners don't go there, unfortunately some people in the west and elsewhere see humans as humans and will go there regardless, there will always be people to kidnap and paying a ransom is self defeating

In order to buy weapons, someone must sell them weapons. That 'someone' is usually the West. I even think the Black Market would think twice about selling sh*t to these Clowns.

Good people that see suffering may just have to wait to do good.

I hate the thought, but to save a life, ideally you should live.

Try Saudi Arabia and Qatar supplying funds and arms

Syrian Army supplied by Russia

You should keep in the current news.

Russia are talking about joining up to stop the threat of the Clowns(they have a very high Muslim population in the East, so they have a vested interest) and I believe the Saudis and Qatar-is have already flown mission against the Clowns.

 

[marco]

In order to buy weapons, someone must sell them weapons. That 'someone' is usually the West. I even think the Black Market would think twice about selling sh*t to these Clowns.

Good people that see suffering may just have to wait to do good.

I hate the thought, but to save a life, ideally you should live.

France, Germany, Turkey etc have all paid ransoms and had their citizens freed. That is fact. UK and US refuse and so sit back to see their citizens beheaded. As I said, dont think the Establishment give a fuck about any of us inclu victims like Alan Henning.

Bollocks have they. Absolute bollocks.

france and italy certainly have and the turks? not to sure about the others