bluethrunthru
Well-Known Member
Does anyone think we still live in a democracy, in any meaningful sense of the word?
Nope
Does anyone think we still live in a democracy, in any meaningful sense of the word?
Have we ever lived in one, this is just the latest fucked up emanation from this current government.Does anyone think we still live in a democracy, in any meaningful sense of the word?
Relatively speaking, yes. Don’t suppose we’ve ever had a truly representative democracy, but I guess that mattered less when Labour and the stories got over 95% of the vote between them.Have we ever lived in one, this is just the latest fucked up emanation from this current government.
Which stories?Relatively speaking, yes. Don’t suppose we’ve ever had a truly representative democracy, but I guess that mattered less when Labour and the stories got over 95% of the vote between them.
Surely if Johnson won, all the people who resigned would vote to bring him down again.
I've got a crisp £20 note that says they wouldn't.
There is no way he was watching this was there? I thought he was hosting a lavish party to celebrate his wedding to the latest wife?
There is no way he was watching this was there? I thought he was hosting a lavish party to celebrate his wedding to the latest wife?
Blair resignation honours = none made, partly due to the recent Cash for Honours issues.
Brown resignation honours = none made (not sure if he resigned anyway), but there was a dissolution list across all parties.
Cameron resignation honours = oh yes indeed, just the 13 Conservative peers (plus 1 labour, and 2 crossbench)
22 Conservative donors ennobled since 2010, for at least £54M, and 9 were made party treasurers beforehand.
Johnson advised by Lynton Crosby to pack the Lords and demand voting for Conservative plans. It'll be sold as ennobling people from the north/Wales/Scotland to balance an apparent dominance of the South/southeast, but it's about as nakedly corrupt as possible.
The bizarre bit is that it's so transparent and not even slightly hidden.