Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[Fame Monster]

For now, I'm a bit forgiving if the government for three reasons.

First, it's such a big undertaking to manage this whole thing, and mistakes are inevitable.

Second, we can compare to other countries but at this stage we'll only be able to judge to effectiveness of it when it's all over.

And third, when the government tells people to do something, I want them to listen, not ignore them because all they've heard is that the government don't know what they're doing.

Maybe putting too much trust in them, but what option do we have.

Just have to hope they get more decisions right than wrong.

And in time, it will be a hell of a review. And all these decisions and statements and strategies will need to be explained.

There will be some unfair criticisms of the Gov't that should be aimed elsewhere, I'd agree with that. However, just on the trust issue, can you blame the public for not trusting the Government?

Boris Johnson is one of the most duplicitous, shady figures British politics has ever known. His whole life has been a tribute to the dark arts, and even on his death bed, he was only in as a precaution. One day he's shaking hands with everyone, the next the public are told not to. One day the public are told there's very little evidence against mass gatherings and we see Johnson at the rugby and passenger jets flying in from China, and the next week its banned (but not the passenger jets). One week we're told the Gov't have opted out of the EU ventilator scheme for political reasons, the next it's because they've missed the email. And on it goes. Lurching from lie to lie. Even to the point of refusing to show some of the scientific data.

In my eyes, the Government have failed the public, not the other way round.

 

[kaz7]

We are testing in ever increasing numbers.

let me ask you a question. How quickly do you think it is feasible to invent, manufacture, distribute, test nearly 70 Million citizens and evaluate results?

Why don't you give your opinion on what I actually said ? We were testing at the beginning of March and tracing ,that I know for a fact,then we stopped whilst the WHO and Italian medics were begging us to change course and catch up,other countries were way ahead hence we couldn't get the chemicals for the tests when we finally woke up ,what we are doing now is not the point

What we did early doors was go our own way,imo that was wrong,we were turning down companies offers to make PPE here to help out ,we sent a load of PPE to China early doors,we had scientists here warning it was coming out way,boris was too busy shaking peoples hands and skipping meetings to prepare us properly

he was a rabbit in the headlights up until he got ill,breaking his own social distancing rules,not taking it seriously,the top three men plus Cummings all ill,inept doesn't cover it

 

[blueinsa]

I didn't mention PPE in the post you have quoted,why don't you give your opinion on what I actually said ? We were testing at the beginning of March and tracing ,that I know for a fact,then we stopped whilst the WHO and Italian medics were begging us to change course and catch up,other countries were way ahead hence we couldn't get the chemicals for the tests when we finally woke up ,what we are doing now is not the point

What we did early doors was go our own way,imo that was wrong,we were turning down companies offers to make PPE here to help out ,we sent a load of PPE to China early doors,we had scientists here warning it was coming out way,boris was too busy shaking peoples hands and skipping meetings to prepare us properly

We stopped tracing because the infection rates nationwide had already become too large ffs. We will go back to it when numbers are at a manageable level again. Listen to the fucking CMO!

 

[kaz7]

We stopped tracing because the infection rates nationwide had already become too large ffs. We will go back to it when numbers are at a manageable level again. Listen to the fucking CMO!

The 2nd week of march infection rates were not to high to abandon testing and tracing,o would rather believe the WHO on their stance at the time that testing was THE best thing to do,they were mega frustrated at our inaction and going against what everyone else was doing. I listen to the briefings every day,we haven't been able to track and trace till now because we let the infection rate soar because we stopped doing it too soon!

 

[moomba]

can you blame the public for not trusting the Government?

It's not really a matter of blame for me. I just don't want the government telling people to do something, and large numbers ignoring them. I do think some elements of the media are stoking the flames if this.

Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the government and scientific/medical advisors. But I don't know anything about viruses and pandemics to say they're wrong so blind faith it is for me.

 

[blueinsa]

The 2nd week of march infection rates were not to high to abandon testing and tracing,o would rather believe the WHO on their stance at the time that testing was THE best thing to do,they were mega frustrated at our inaction and going against what everyone else was doing. I listen to the briefings every day,we haven't been able to track and trace till now because we let the infection rate soar because we stopped doing it too soon!

You have zero clue as to what the actual infection rates where and it is now emerging that from very early on, the UK numbers where high. Not tested cases but real world, thousands and thousands of us walking around infected and passing it on.

 

[kaz7]

You have zero clue as to what the actual infection rates where and it is now emerging that from very early on, the UK numbers where high. Not tested cases but real world, thousands and thousands of us walking around infected and passing it on.

I am sorry but the only way we would know that was by testing and tracing,you stop it spreading that way,we ignored the advice of those who know better than we did,we did not prepare,we had a great time advantage,we wasted it
do you have a link on early infection rates and how we knew second week of march it was too high to keep testing?

 

[blueinsa]

I am sorry but the only way we would know that was by testing and tracing,you stop it spreading that way,we ignored the advice of those who know better than we did,we did not prepare,we had a great time advantage,we wasted it
do you have a link on early infection rates and how we knew second week of march it was too high to keep testing?

There isn't a country on earth that will test all, not one. We know that many will be carriers and will never show symptoms yet will pass it on and that is what has happened in this country and many others and they would never be tested.

The logistics of even suggesting such a thing are impossible. Wait till a vaccine of sorts becomes available and some are demanding why 70 million doses are not available immediately and everyone not given their jabs by the end of the week and it will happen!

 

[Fred_Quimby]

You have zero clue as to what the actual infection rates where and it is now emerging that from very early on, the UK numbers where high. Not tested cases but real world, thousands and thousands of us walking around infected and passing it on.

Yet again you denigrate other posters views. You, sir, are a waste of time. What part of - we were late at everything don't you understand? WE SAW THIS COMING. We were at least 3 weeks behind Italy and anyone who says that we didn't see it coming is talking out of their backside.

 

[blueinsa]

You, sir, are a waste of time.

What next? Pistols at dawn as you demand satisfaction lol?