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Neville Kneville said:
We are 12 points clear at the top of the fucking league, in January.

I'm fucking sick of this shite.
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No disrespect mate, but I've barely had a word on here or been on here to talk about this at all, so sorry if you're worn down by some posters. That isn't my fault, but you don't seem to understand what my reasoning is, at least.

So, good news when clubs miss on a world class player, no matter what? You sure about that? I could go on, but there are some worrying signs that aren't just made up of nonsense.

Aguero fitting under Pep and his future with the club being one of those (which I am dubious about, so replacing him), and Jesus was not in the greatest form before he was injured either (meaning I have concerns about consistency given his age). Raz and Sane have been fantastic, but we don't have the record of success with them so we don't know fully yet about them (age partially being a factor), even though they are performing well.

I didn't explain, but I'm not worrying about the league, this season.

I'm talking about CL. This season. We have an excellent chance of given what is going on this season and our current draw and it is. Sure, we could become finalists every season, but that seems rather presumptuous.

I'm also thinking about putting ourselves in an even clearer pole position in the PL as other clubs look to improve over the next two windows.

The idea of just sitting whilst you are ahead is exactly how you lose the lead.

You, I would think are intelligent enough to understand that.

Why so against this? I don't get it other than for those, I see, who are more sensitive to players who don't treat us like the prettiest girl at the dance with us in the transfer market.
 
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lancs blue said:
The rest of the league must be fucking dire, I can't see how else we got to a 20-2-1 record with all the stiffs and has-beens we have in our squad.
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Right you are. That's it. You've all figured it out.

The whole squad situation is a shambles compared to the league (since the league THIS season is the ONLY competition we will ever be in) and Pep needs to go before it gets any worse. Only Sanchez can save us, otherwise we're doomed. That's exactly what I think.

You surely can't be that closed minded.

So, the team is perfect in attack, no other rival club improving has any impact on us, will never be able to catch up to our level, nor should we be trying to improve nor win CL this season? Yes, because you are certain we're THAT far ahead?

Really?

Cheers.
 
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PrezIke said:
No disrespect mate, but I haven't had a word on here or been on here to talk about this at all, so sorry if you're worn down by some posters. That isn't my fault, and sorry, but it seems you seem to understand what I am saying, at least.

So, good news when clubs miss on a world class player, no matter what? You sure about that? I could go on, but there are some worrying signs that aren't just made up of nonsense.

Aguero fitting under Pep and his future with the club being one of those (which I am dubious about, so replacing him), and Jesus was not in the greatest form before he was injured either. Raz and Sane have been fantastic, but we don't have the record of success with them so we don't know fully yet about them, even though they are performing well.

I didn't explain, but I'm not worrying about the league, this season.

I'm talking about CL. This season. We have an excellent chance of given what is going on this season and our current draw and it is. Sure, we could become finalists every season, but that seems rather presumptuous.

I'm also thinking about putting ourselves in an even clearer pole position in the PL as other clubs look to improve over the next two windows.

The idea of just sitting whilst you are ahead is exactly how you lose the lead.

You, I would think are intelligent enough to understand that.

Why so against this? I don't get it other than for those, I see, who are more sensitive to players who play a dance with us in the transfer market.
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Its always a balance and we know like every other club given finances and direction every club is attempting to improve its squad.

We are making too much of Sanchez on this forum on both fronts whether you are in for him or otherwise.

For me its a nice to have a 29 year old with experience in Europe and in the premiership obviously one of Arsenals better performers in the past perhaps wanting one last tilt at some domestic and Euro success before he hangs up his boots and returns to Chile or whatever.

As for Kun and Jesus well just look at their injury record this year the fact Kun was in an accident that on another day could have ended his career if not worse and you will conclude their is no stability and consistency of game time and as you get older it takes more game time to get into the groove so to speak.

His return 19 from 22 ain't too bad and if fit and committed he will still finish in the top few each year in any league he plays.

The beauty is we have had a lot of things go sour on us this year on the injury front , Mendy , Kun , Jesus , Stones , Delph , Walker , Foden , VK , Silva, Gundy ,i could go on and untimely suspensions but we are 20-2-1.

As I have said despite 5 sides in the last 16 this years Chumps wise the league is overrated and in general the quality no so good.

Look at the so called game on Sunday 4-3 yes plenty of goals but errors cost us three goals if not four and school boy ones at that and the game was filled with shocking passing from both sides on numerous occasions often when under little pressure to boot.

In summary lets chill out hope the news on Delph will be ok , maybe get a D/M or Left back in this window , we can do without another forward until the summer when Kuns fate will be decided and lets see how we go in the last 15 games ( no contrary to sum the league is not done and dusted yet ) which will keep us on edge in true City tradition.
 
PrezIke said:
The idea of just sitting whilst you are ahead is exactly how you lose the lead.
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So not bowing to the demands of a 29 year old chasing a big payday is "sitting"?? By all accounts Sanchez had agreed terms last August but now because the rags are sniffing he wants an extra £3m a year, we are absolutely right to pull the plug rather than breaking our wage structure to accommodate him. The correct decision is to move on and look at other targets, I'd rather we signed the next KdB/Jesus/Sane than deal with time-wasters.

We are aiming for self-sustainability, you don't get there by just caving in when a player changes his agreed demands.
 
lancs blue said:
So not bowing to the demands of a 29 year old chasing a big payday is "sitting"?? By all accounts Sanchez had agreed terms last August but now because the rags are sniffing he wants an extra £3m a year, we are absolutely right to pull the plug rather than breaking our wage structure to accommodate him. The correct decision is to move on and look at other targets, I'd rather we signed the next KdB/Jesus/Sane than deal with time-wasters.

We are aiming for self-sustainability, you don't get there by just caving in when a player changes his agreed demands.
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I'm actually not blaming us as much as I am reading here.

Some of this is just circumstance, like what happened with Arsenal not getting a replacement on the last day of the summer.

However, we may have gotten overconfident, and losing Sanchez who has wanted to come here for sometime is understandably disappointing and could come back to bite us.

I am not saying pay the money, although it's odd we didn't see this coming with the agent fee (allegedly) so something seems wrong about this claim anyway, but I really don't know what's going on.

We'll be okay, I am sure, but I think if he came we would have clearly been the team to beat in Europe, where as now it's a bit more of a tossup between us and a few other clubs, and one of our rivals will improve as well.

Why should we be happy about that?
 
PrezIke said:
I'm actually not blaming us as much as I am reading here.

Some of this is just circumstance, like what happened with Arsenal not getting a replacement on the last day of the summer.

However, we may have gotten overconfident, and losing Sanchez who has wanted to come here for sometime is understandably disappointing and could come back to bite us.

I am not saying pay the money, although it's odd we didn't see this coming with the agent fee (allegedly) so something seems wrong about this claim anyway, but I really don't know what's going on.

We'll be okay, I am sure, but I think if he came we would have clearly been the team to beat in Europe, where as now it's a bit more of a tossup between us and a few other clubs, and one of our rivals will improve as well.

Why should we be happy about that?
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So your main issue is that the team is missing a player whom could be the difference in winning the champions league or not, which is understandable. Losing a quality player who you've been looking at for a while to a direct rival is disappointing but those two instances are where the disappointments of not getting him ends. Solely looking at this season, the team has more than enough in the league and cup competitions without him and although he would've definitely added to the chances of winning the champions league its not a disaster if the team fails to win that competition this season. Imo pep is building something special with this side with a base of young players who are not even near their peak. I'm certain there will be plenty of chances in the future to win the champions league and there will be better alternatives lined up when the inevitable happens and aguero calls it a day. It seems from your point of view you think this is the best chance for the team to win the champions league and adding sanchez helps that while I happen to belive the team has enough currently even if they fail this season there would be plenty of opportunities in the near future with some of the young talent in it.
 
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