Alexis Sanchez

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BigOscar said:
They were when they were successful, they've gone to shit since they lost that harmony. Much like how Real were shit for a decade when they were full of in fighting, then have been dominant since has come in and got them on the same page. You can have success with a dressing room with issues, but you very rarely get sustained success without everyone pulling in the same direction.
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No they weren't! They were constantly on the edge of collapsing from the board down. It's why Pep left.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
They're both completely different personalities with different abilities. They both have the hunger to be the best but the way they go about it is completely different.

Again, Barca were on fire that year and the team evidently didn't suffer for his presence. He helped them win titles and then was sold (presumably because he's a knobhead) without any long term damage to the team. The transfer didn't pan out how they'd hoped but it's hard to argue with the results.
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Not sure I agree with your assessment of his year at Barca. The year before they won the CL, that year they didn't, then the year after they won it again. It was undoubtedly a down year for them by their ridiculously high standards of the time. It was an absolutely huge failure of a transfer, they got worse as a team and lost a huge amount of money.
 
BigOscar said:
Not sure I agree with your assessment of his year at Barca. The year before they won the CL, that year they didn't, then the year after they won it again. It was undoubtedly a down year for them by their ridiculously high standards of the time. It was an absolutely huge failure of a transfer, they got worse as a team and lost a huge amount of money.
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Statistically they had a marginally better domestic campaign that year than the seasons either side of the transfer. They were knocked out by Inter (the winners that season) in the semi and were only one goal away from defeating them on away goals.

No doubt it was a shit signing and Barca were a more cohesive unit without him but the damage was hardly Earth shattering other than from a financial point of view. The point I was trying to make is that Ibrahimovic and his attitude didn't do enough to derail them so that negative comparison with any potential Sanchez transfer doesn't really hold up.

Like I said, it's not really comparable anyway given the two different personalities and play styles and I'm sure if we were to go in for Sanchez then he'd be made fully aware of the situation with regards to first team competition rather than coming in expecting to be 'top dog'.

I doubt anyone in the squad has been told that they're a guaranteed starter, even Sergio has been made aware that there aren't any assurances and, on top of that, Pep has worked with him before and would therefore have a pretty decent idea what to expect from him in terms of mentality.

Sorry if this was just incoherent waffle, I'm sleep deprived.

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Still created an unstable and unpleasant atmosphere (which I don't want to see happening again at City).
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That's fair enough and I do understand where you're coming from.
 
Pardon my ignorance but what does "top dog" mean?

I somehow doubt that clubs nominate a player who, irrespective of performances, will be undroppable all season long.
 
Dr Jacoby said:
Pardon my ignorance but what does "top dog" mean?

I somehow doubt that clubs nominate a player who, irrespective of performances, will be undroppable all season long.
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Key player, the king of the club.
 
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Akiva said:
You don't know that.

For the record, I'm pretty sure Pep has had long enough to form his own opinions and won't be hedging his bets based on one game at the end of the season.
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He respects his former player but I don't take that as a given that Sanchez would end up at City. Not with Aguero still at the club. And going off what has happened with Sanchez at Arsenal and Chile national side, he would not be happy with rotation either.
 
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He will not end up at City, especially with Kun showing what he is capable of.
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He wouldnt play instead of Kun, he may not end up at City, but if not somebody similar will we wont go into next season with 4 players for 3 positions.
Every player in the squad will be rotated next season. Same as this but without the big drop in quality.
The bench players should be as strong as the 11 on the pitch, and interchangeable.
 
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Arsenal will not let that happen.
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Not with Aguero still at the club.
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Aguero can play with Sanchez.

Let's cut the bullshit and get to the point: you don't want City to sign Sanchez. That's fine, you're entitled to that opinion. To stride in here and declare City will not sign Sanchez because of your opinion, despite the overwhelming evidence showing City want to sign Sanchez, is an insult to everyone's intelligence.
 
Akiva said:
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Aguero can play with Sanchez. If

Let's cut the bullshit and get to the point: you don't want City to sign Sanchez. That's fine, you're entitled to that opinion. To stride in here and declare City will not sign Sanchez because of your opinion, despite the overwhelming evidence showing City want to sign Sanchez, is an insult to everyone's intelligence.
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I am not moving the goalposts on this one or being in complete denial that the club wasn't (or isn't) interested in signing the player. The fly in the ointment is Arsenal can dig their heels (something I am doing in this discussion) and refuse to sell him to us (or any other Premier League rival). Another one is we have two highly talented kids who don't need another £50m, no matter how versatile Sanchez is, (or whatever Arsenal will want) stunting their progress imo .
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So who's currently "the king of the club"? Can't a team have more than one indispensable player?
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Aguero as a striker and one of our club's icons (93:20) and one of the club's record goal-scorers.
 
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Sanchez is a MUST buy if we get the opportunity - game changer - where would Arsenal be this season without him ? Creates and scores, and a driving force. The more World Class players the bette r- if you cant stand the heat......
 
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I am not moving the goalposts on this one. The fly in the ointment is Arsenal can dig their heels (something I am doing in this discussion) and refuse to sell him to us (or any other Premier League rival).
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They could, but he walks for free next summer, and i doubt they'd let that happen
 
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