Alexis Sanchez

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AwayDay said:
Wenger was in a far stronger position then, the outcry now if Sanchez starts the season and still leaves will end with Wenger leaving.
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No he won't. The board don't give a toss about any 'outcry'. The man is bulletproof. Stop kidding yourself. We are just a money making machine with no ambition whatsoever and as long as Wenger keeps the club nicely in profit, he'll have a job for life. The only thing that could bring him down is if he does a George Graham etc on us.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
In relation to being booed for showing ambition and moving on, that list of players isn't strictly correct, mate. I remember Clive Wilson getting booed when he was still playing for us but had (openly) signed for Chelsea, but had (unusually) been retained by us until the end of the season. The game itself was an abject display, towards the end of the 1986/7 season (but not right at the end of that campaign, when we had a little rally) and I distinctly remember a ten minute spell towards the end of that game (I can't remember against who, I'm afraid) when he was booed by the Kippax every time he touched the ball, although as he was still playing for City at the time you are technically correct ;-)

Agree with the thrust of what you're saying though, I just never pass the up the opportunity to be a smart arse ;-)
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I remember that we kept him for the rest of the season but I can't remember the abuse at all, GDM. But even then, he never got booed when he came back.

Sturridge got some boos, actually. He's one but there haven't been many more.
 
Robbiegunn said:
No he won't. The board don't give a toss about any 'outcry'. The man is bulletproof. Stop kidding yourself. We are just a money making machine with no ambition whatsoever and as long as Wenger keeps the club nicely in profit, he'll have a job for life.
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Have to agree. We hear the same thing every year and a lot of Arsenal fans kick off. Nothing changes. They're kidding you on every year with talk about wanting to be competitive at the very top. The priority is profit and a 'speculate to accumulate' policy must be seen as too risky.

I'm sorry if I seem condescending but I do feel a bit sorry for Arsenal fans when it comes to this. It's like you're being teased.

I feel the same way as I do for fans of mid table clubs without wealthy investors. It must get really boring. I've never had it with City in my lifetime: it's been relegation, promotion, survival battles, two takeovers and all that excitement, then some trophy wins and now they're pushing for the next step under Guardiola.

Just a reflection of how finances strongly dictate the storyline in football. I feel very lucky that I was raised a City fan at the moment.
 
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I think with this lineup, Sanchez coming in would win us the league. We have been so wasteful in front of goal, and he brings the clinical finishing that would make us pretty much unstoppable.
 
Robbiegunn said:
No he won't. The board don't give a toss about any 'outcry'. The man is bulletproof. Stop kidding yourself. We are just a money making machine with no ambition whatsoever and as long as Wenger keeps the club nicely in profit, he'll have a job for life. The only thing that could bring him down is if he does a George Graham etc on us.
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Makes sad reading that mate.
 
Dobsy said:
Have to agree. We hear the same thing every year and a lot of Arsenal fans kick off. Nothing changes. They're kidding you on every year with talk about wanting to be competitive at the very top. The priority is profit and a 'speculate to accumulate' policy must be seen as too risky.

I'm sorry if I seem condescending but I do feel a bit sorry for Arsenal fans when it comes to this. It's like you're being teased.

I feel the same way as I do for fans of mid table clubs without wealthy investors. It must get really boring. I've never had it with City in my lifetime: it's been relegation, promotion, survival battles, two takeovers and all that excitement, then some trophy wins and now they're pushing for the next step under Guardiola.

Just a reflection of how finances strongly dictate the storyline in football. I feel very lucky that I was raised a City fan at the moment.
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That's why I so badly want Usmanov. We would be your rivals then make no mistake. He is an actual real fan with more money than Roman Abramovich and Stan Kroenke combined. If he took over within two to three years our rivalry would be like the two horse Arsenal/Utd rivalry of the late 90's/ early 00's.
 
chestervegasblue said:
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I think with this lineup, Sanchez coming in would win us the league. We have been so wasteful in front of goal, and he brings the clinical finishing that would make us pretty much unstoppable.
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Not enough pace up top without any of Jesus, Sané or Sterling, in my opinion.
 
Robbiegunn said:
No he won't. The board don't give a toss about any 'outcry'. The man is bulletproof. Stop kidding yourself. We are just a money making machine with no ambition whatsoever and as long as Wenger keeps the club nicely in profit, he'll have a job for life. The only thing that could bring him down is if he does a George Graham etc on us.
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Why would he need to do a George Graham when he's being genorously rewarded to do the owners' bidding?
 
Robbiegunn said:
No he won't. The board don't give a toss about any 'outcry'. The man is bulletproof. Stop kidding yourself. We are just a money making machine with no ambition whatsoever and as long as Wenger keeps the club nicely in profit, he'll have a job for life. The only thing that could bring him down is if he does a George Graham etc on us.
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Sorry to hear, though I agree with your assessment.

I do think Sanchez's transfer will be spun as ' Sanchez's fault', 'he went so late we couldn't buy a replacment' and everything to paint us and sanchez as the villains despite this being in the works for months.

I do think, personally, you'll be seeing Jadon Sancho go the other way as part of it and he's an absolutely stellar youth player.
 
hgblue said:
Thing is we accepted our place in football's food chain, so we were able to thank players for their service and understand that they had a right to try to better themselves and win trophies. Does Sanchez want to leave? Yes. Has he stated that he wants to play Champs League? Yes. Does it make sense for Arsenal to keep an unhappy player? No. Can the loss of 59 million quid for one season of a dusgtuntled player be justified? No. So why hasn't this transfer happened yet? Because selling Sanchez to City confirms Arsensl's place in the football food chain and a realisation of this amongst the fans would be dangerous for Arsenal. So Sanchez will be painted as a mercenary moving for the money and the media narrative will be set. It helps their fans to stay in denial and that's fine by me
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That makes perfect sense to me. Part of me wants players to be loyal to their contracts as there is not enough loyalty shown in the game these days. However, where a club has fans that are as delusional as many Arsenal fans appear to be on the Sanchez situation then I'm all for the player forcing the issue.
Players hold all of the aces in the modern game where money is King. Let's see how it plays out. I know where my money is going on this matter!
 
Bob the Baker said:
When do the Arses have to announce their squad for the Europa? If they list Sanchez, will that disqualify him from playing in the CL?
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UEFA regulations say the squads for the group phase have to be announced until 1 September 11pm.
That means 1 day after the window has been closed.
So IF Sanchez joins he will be available for CL matches in any case.

A player may only play for 1 club within 1 season - for both CL and EL !
Qualifying stages and play-offs are not involved in that rule.

If a player didn't come in as a sub he may play for a different club he has joined during the same season (winter window).
 
ballinio said:
They're all hired guns, I'm sure it would be exciting to see a few academy products in the 1st team until we started dropping down the league then it wouldn't be good for anybody , especially the young lads, just crazy talk .
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We've already got the best forward line in the country ffs.

Dropping down the league. Dear me.
 
Marvin said:
I think if he hands a transfer request in then it's nailed on he comes to City. Wenger would not be that stupid to hold an unhappy player. But I could also see him starting the season at Arsenal and organising a free transfer to a European club this Winter. I believe the first option is best for Arsenal as it allows them to move on, otherwise their season gets dragged down in intrigue and acrimony.
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Doesn't he already have an unhappy player? The first option is best for us and not necessarily Le Arse
 
Robbiegunn said:
That's why I so badly want Usmanov. We would be your rivals then make no mistake. He is an actual real fan with more money than Roman Abramovich and Stan Kroenke combined. If he took over within two to three years our rivalry would be like the two horse Arsenal/Utd rivalry of the late 90's/ early 00's.
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Maybe: I think United will always have the money to be competitive and Chelsea are very well run, so four horses.
Neville Kneville said:
We've already got the best forward line in the country ffs.

Dropping down the league. Dear me.
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We had the 5th best chance conversion rate and were 3rd top scorers last season. We don't have the best forward line.

You're a proper WUM.
 
Dobsy said:
Maybe: I think United will always have the money to be competitive and Chelsea are very well run, so four horses.


We had the 5th best chance conversion rate and were 3rd top scorers last season. We don't have the best forward line.

You're a proper WUM.
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A WUM for saying City have the best forward line in the league.

You are fucking weird mate.
 
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