Alexis Sanchez

[Jazzman]

Who is Madrid's strong back up scorer. Or Bayern's, or Barca's. Juve has one in Manzukic, but they might be the only team who does.

I want Sanchez too. But its foolhardy to not see the potential problem.

Personally, I think Yaya and not Dihno is the starting DM. So Sane and Sterling are already on the bench. So is Gundogan. 3 legit starters on the bench. With Otamendi, Dihno, Danilo and Bravo who I consider good backups. Sanchez will be tough to fit in when everyone is healthy.

But the rational is simple. Injury and suspensions will constantly keep 2 to 3 players off the squad. And that is where Nasri and Sanchez come in.

I think if everyone is healthy and in top form Pep will simply rotate. There will no such thing as a first 11, rotation will be the only constant thing. I also think that it will be a rare occurrence that everyone is healthy and in top form, and without Kun or Jesus available our center attack looks vulnerable.

 

[robbieh]

Who is Madrid's strong back up scorer. Or Bayern's, or Barca's. Juve has one in Manzukic, but they might be the only team who does.

I want Sanchez too. But its foolhardy to not see the potential problem.

Personally, I think Yaya and not Dihno is the starting DM. So Sane and Sterling are already on the bench. So is Gundogan. 3 legit starters on the bench. With Otamendi, Dihno, Danilo and Bravo who I consider good backups. Sanchez will be tough to fit in when everyone is healthy.

But the rational is simple. Injury and suspensions will constantly keep 2 to 3 players off the squad. And that is where Nasri and Sanchez come in.

I agree with all of that apart from the highlighted part. I have been banging on about this for a few days. Even the behemoth's you rightly mention do not have world class backup if Ronaldo, Messi or Lewandowski get injured so it is crazy to think we should.

Of course we'd all love a team where you have Pele and Cruyff up front with Diego to come of the bench but that is not how these guys ego's work.

I posted a team with Dinho in it but as things stand Yaya would probably a better fit there.

In front of him Bernardo, DS and KdB

In front of them Kun and GJ

So as you rightly say Sterling and Leroy already on the bench and as far as Leroy is concerned that is just wrong.

Buy Sanchez and the problems just mount. If people think that Raheem will never have enough goals in him then maybe we should just sell him now or swap him for Sanchez.

 

[AgueroSilva]

The difference is Lewandowski, Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Cavani, Alexis and so on are not injury prone. Our main goalscorer is...

 

[Danamy]

Who is Madrid's strong back up scorer. Or Bayern's, or Barca's. Juve has one in Manzukic, but they might be the only team who does.

I want Sanchez too. But its foolhardy to not see the potential problem.

Personally, I think Yaya and not Dihno is the starting DM. So Sane and Sterling are already on the bench. So is Gundogan. 3 legit starters on the bench. With Otamendi, Dihno, Danilo and Bravo who I consider good backups. Sanchez will be tough to fit in when everyone is healthy.

But the rational is simple. Injury and suspensions will constantly keep 2 to 3 players off the squad. And that is where Nasri and Sanchez come in.

It'll be horses for courses dependant on who we're playing, 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 3-5-2, example being Sanchez would be ideal in a 3 up top playing on the inside but if we see a weakness in full backs and play on width then Sane would get the call. imho

 

[Dax777]

Exactly. It makes me laugh that the buying club gets all the stick for "inflating the market" and the selling club completely escapes criticism. Both are culpable IMO. Or you could say none are - if 2 clubs are prepared to do business on a player, then why should anyone else outside of those clubs complain about the fee?

Buying clubs get all the stick and deservedly so. Coz often like PSG just did, they put up an amount that can't be refused... I.e the buyout clause (something meant to be so ridiculous that no one should pay it). In the absence of that, they pay over the odds so much so to make it silly for the selling club not to agree.

Once that happens, other selling clubs aren't going to sell for peanuts when those teams who are willing to throw excessive money around show up.

Monaco selling us Mendy for 49 million is one of the best examples of that. I can bet my mortgage that price changed after we paid 45 for Walker. Coz no way on earth does anyone at Monaco think Mendy is worth more than Bernado. Nor Lemar.

But at the time we scooped Bernado for a fair price, the big money boys (us included) hadn't started throwing silly money around yet.

The moment "we" started doing this ( and by "we" I mean the four big spending market setters in PSG, Real, United and City and their Minor cousins, Chelsea, AC Milan and most of the Prem teams in general) Monaco quickly readjusted their pricing to match our thirst. Lemar is now an 80m player and and Mendy a 50 mil player.

So yes, the problem is with those who buy at exorbitant prices. As sellers readjust their lenses to their spending. No way PSG get Berchiche for 11m if they had paid 196 for Neymar first. No way.

 

[Dax777]

I think if everyone is healthy and in top form Pep will simply rotate. There will no such thing as a first 11, rotation will be the only constant thing. I also think that it will be a rare occurrence that everyone is healthy and in top form, and without Kun or Jesus available our center attack looks vulnerable.

I actually think in a 3 5 2 with Sane and Sterling as the 2 strikers will easily rival Kun and Jesus up top. Sane and Sterling have th kind of speed and agility that brings an edge Kun and Jesus don't have. While the latter 2 are more skilled and better scorers the former will probably thrive better with so many through ball passers.

So I'm not too worried. I understand rotation, but a starting 11, or should I call it a more constant 11 always emerges.

 

[Dax777]

I agree with all of that apart from the highlighted part. I have been banging on about this for a few days. Even the behemoth's you rightly mention do not have world class backup if Ronaldo, Messi or Lewandowski get injured so it is crazy to think we should.

Of course we'd all love a team where you have Pele and Cruyff up front with Diego to come of the bench but that is not how these guys ego's work.

I posted a team with Dinho in it but as things stand Yaya would probably a better fit there.

In front of him Bernardo, DS and KdB

In front of them Kun and GJ

So as you rightly say Sterling and Leroy already on the bench and as far as Leroy is concerned that is just wrong.

Buy Sanchez and the problems just mount. If people think that Raheem will never have enough goals in him then maybe we should just sell him now or swap him for Sanchez.

I think the reality is that we are ( even last season with an agingvfullback corp) only weak when we had injuries and suspensions. We weren't weak when we had everyone healthy.
But we almost never have everyone healthy and unsuspended. Currently Mendy and Gundo are not ready, by the time they are, we'll have 2 others who aren't.

So we can comfortably carry Nasri and Sanchez and you'd never notice it all season because someone is always out.

 

[AgueroSilva]

Buying clubs get all the stick and deservedly so. Coz often like PSG just did, they put up an amount that can't be refused... I.e the buyout clause (something meant to be so ridiculous that no one should pay it). In the absence of that, they pay over the odds so much so to make it silly for the selling club not to agree.

Once that happens, other selling clubs aren't going to sell for peanuts when those teams who are willing to throw excessive money around show up.

Monaco selling us Mendy for 49 million is one of the best examples of that. I can bet my mortgage that price changed after we paid 45 for Walker. Coz no way on earth does anyone at Monaco think Mendy is worth more than Bernado. Nor Lemar.

But at the time we scooped Bernado for a fair price, the big money boys (us included) hadn't started throwing silly money around yet.

The moment "we" started doing this ( and by "we" I mean the four big spending market setters in PSG, Real, United and City and their Minor cousins, Chelsea, AC Milan and most of the Prem teams in general) Monaco quickly readjusted their pricing to match our thirst. Lemar is now an 80m player and and Mendy a 50 mil player.

So yes, the problem is with those who buy at exorbitant prices. As sellers readjust their lenses to their spending. No way PSG get Berchiche for 11m if they had paid 196 for Neymar first. No way.

How do you explain Chelsea getting Bakayoko for £40m then? Baring in mind the deal for B.Silva was £43m+ £17m add ons it wasn't that Monaco changed their prices accordingly. Its that as they lost more players they rose the price. Also buying Walker for £50m didn't help, obviously Monaco will see that and ask for a similar amount. I also think an offer of £50-60m would get Lemar.

Fabinho is a different story though, I think he'd cost a hell of a lot more.

 

[AwayDay]

At the moment who sits out when everyone's fit.
Sterling Jesus and Bernardo Silva?
That's a lot of talent on the bench.

 

[Blue Mooner]

If we were in CL, hed have signed a contract extension, Ive no doubt about that.

You were in the champions league when he should have been signing on an extended contract. Strewth you Arsenal lads really are in denial.

It's tantamount to a woman in a violent relationship who can't seem to leave him. He's abusing you but you still go back to him because things will get better because he loves you and will change. He doesn't and he won't, leave the f*cker.

 

[drthingy]

We are gonna need more than two strikers just to deal with the bans we will get for diving.
Just wait and see

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Which one?

That's from Police Academy.

 

[domalino]

Sure, but also his legs won't be insured for anywhere near the full amount he could make if he was fit.

People keep saying that the way Arsenal are behaving makes no sense. If you recognise that holding onto him for as long as possible this transfer window gives them leverage then it makes a lot more sense.

I reckon if this happens it will be right at the end of August.

Keeping him until the end of August just means they have no time to replace him if he goes.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

I actually think in a 3 5 2 with Sane and Sterling as the 2 strikers will easily rival Kun and Jesus up top. Sane and Sterling have th kind of speed and agility that brings an edge Kun and Jesus don't have. While the latter 2 are more skilled and better scorers the former will probably thrive better with so many through ball passers.

So I'm not too worried. I understand rotation, but a starting 11, or should I call it a more constant 11 always emerges.

Have you taken notice of Sterling especially his shooting, scoring

No way Sane and Sterling will rival Sergio and Jesus.

 

[malg]

I dont know where you get this from, no one gets more hate on talkshite and the sun than Arsenal. Have done ever since we got a french manager. Something weve never been forgiven for by, especially when he started winning things. One sun headline last year after we lost a game "FOR GOD SAKE JUST GO", very disrespectful, shame many Arsenal fans have given such publications a platform to continually disrespect our club without fear of any comeback, theyd never criticise liverpool like this because of their somewhat militant fan base.

Id rather the owner goes, no manager can do anything with us while we show no ambition. This summer we seem to have made a better stand, but still the club is being run badly and thats down to the owners.

Yes, they'll slate your manager as they believe you should have been more successful, but you get decent press when it comes to a well run club - helps if don't have Arab owners. The shite you get on Talkshite is normally from that drive time show with their Daily Arsenal. I'd have burnt the place down by now if that was my club.

 

[Danamy]

At the moment who sits out when everyone's fit.
Sterling Jesus and Bernardo Silva?
That's a lot of talent on the bench.

Opposition, form and attitude also comes into it aswell as raw talent, it's not easy but that's why we employ one of the best Managers in the world.

 

[AwayDay]

Opposition, form and attitude also comes into it aswell as raw talent, it's not easy but that's why we employ one of the best Managers in

He's a wonderful manager, he looks like a manager who thinks of everything, down to the last detail, so if he's not that desperate for Sanchez or another striker, it's probably because he's got a good plan.

 

[2001BFGM]

So absolutely nothing new on this. Don't see us going into new Season without additional FWD unless Pep feels one of Roberts / Diaz can do the job.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You were in the champions league when he should have been signing on an extended contract. Strewth you Arsenal lads really are in denial.

It's tantamount to a woman in a violent relationship who can't seem to leave him. He's abusing you but you still go back to him because things will get better because he loves you and will change. He doesn't and he won't, leave the f*cker.

That's a ridiculous analogy. How can a football fan 'leave' their club?

 

[AgueroSilva]

We currently have 17 foreign players on the books anyway, we can't even bring in another forward unless we first get rid of say Bony or Nasri.

Let alone another foreign defender as well.