Allardyce leaves job after Telegraph sting

[Phil1]

If you watch the whole video, he hasnt done anything sackable from what i can see. He clearly tells them to back off twice and that certain things are out of order. He just explained how to buy a third party player ? and that you can invest in them in countries outside of the premier leauge.

Yep, he's a shining light of respectability is our Sam.

 

[BigOscar]

Come on lads, don't know why more of you didn't see this coming, the poor chap has to eat 30 tonnes of chips a day just to maintain his weight, how's he supposed to do that on his meager salary?

Agreed, I've heard that down South some chip shops make you pay extra if you want a bag of scraps, so no wonder he needs a bit more cash

 

[RandomJ]

If you watch the whole video, he hasnt done anything sackable from what i can see. He clearly tells them to back off twice and that certain things are out of order. He just explained how to buy a third party player ? and that you can invest in them in countries outside of the premier leauge.

He talked about how to get around FA rules
He slagged off his employers the FA
He took the piss out of the last manager Roy
He negotiated a £400k deal

Any one of them would get an average person sacked from their job I don't see why Fat Sam should be any different?

 

[blueinsa]

He talked about how to get around FA rules
He slagged off his employers the FA
He took the piss out of the last manager Roy
He negotiated a £400k deal

Any one of them would get an average person sacked from their job I don't see why Fat Sam should be any different?

Correct. Its unprofessional and gross misconduct as far as im concerned.

 

[meeesh]

I'm just thinking on whom I'm going to sue,when it all comes out that it's been corrupt,and fixed ever since day 1,I suppose the FA is the first place to start,closely by the Prem League,If I could get all my money back what I have spent over the years I'll be able to retire,and go and sit in the sun somewhere

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Can't see the Telegraph releasing this unless they have summat big,the whole footballing world is onto it.
We will find out in the coming weeks I suppose.

A national newspaper not being wholly truthful? Perish the thought.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Unlike most on here, I have always had a lot of time for Sam Allardyce. Think he is excellent at what he does and unfairly maligned by many. Hope he gets sacked though, if for no other reason than being a disgustingly greedy ****. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

 

[willipp]

I think he's a complete idiot for putting himself in that position and he's guilty of being extremely unprofessional, but i don't think in terms of what he's said is its massively out of order.

He was bang on the money about Hodgson and Neville (though showed himself up with the pathetic Woy comment)
He talks about 3rd party ownership and no doubt loopholes are common knowledge if you really want to do that. He wasn't saying he'd done it, just that it could be done.
He tells them to shut up when talking about bungs.
He is negotiating being a key speaker in the far east - they don't specifically say what for so thats open to interpretation.

What pisses me off is the media. They cannot wait to drag us down at any cheap attempt. When we do nothing ion the WC in 2 years time, the same paper will be demanding answers as to why we struggle.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

A national newspaper not being wholly truthful? Perish the thought.

I know where your coming from,but they've gone for the jugular with this,surely their legal team must think they have enough to avoid any comebacks?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Can't see the Telegraph releasing this unless they have summat big,the whole footballing world is onto it.
We will find out in the coming weeks I suppose.

The Telegraph, specifically Paul Kelso I believe, were given some earth-shattering stuff some time ago with clear evidence of large-scale corruption in the game including phone call recordings/transcripts and suspicious betting patterns but they never ran it. Yet they managed to run a headline splash with a nasty little sting. If it's a taster for some of the big stuff they already have that they're going to throw in then fine. But if it's just minor league stuff then it'll garner a few headlines but be next week's chip-paper.

 

[Ezra]

You can bet, given our profile as a club and activity in the transfer market, that we will have been tested as part of this 'investigation'. Would imagine that some of the other big boys will have been as well.

Not the scum then!

 

[Rammyblues]

There are that many threads about alleged wrongdoings by various organisations in charge of football and the media that support them maybe its about time they were all merged under one thread "Football is Bent" No one will do anything about it and historically it has been going on since the first ball was kicked.

 

[BrianW]

I remember being told some years ago about a certain reasonably well-known manager being given a briefcase full of notes in connection with a transfer. I was told this was seen as a 'perk' of the job.

The guy who told me was quite well-connected in business circles, but I was never quite sure whether the story was bollocks or not. The suspicious part of me thinks that this might have been quite common practice at one time.

 

[mat]

The funniest thing about all this is hearing fat Sam's sycophantic pals in the media, the sports hacks who turned a blind eye, insisting that he can survive this. Having read the first instalment it is certain that the FA will have to sack him. His credibility and authority is shredded and he can't be a leader for English football, How predictable that on Talksport Brazil criticises the "people who set Sam up." We will hear the same platitudes we heard when the Telegraph exposed MPs for being "pigs in the trough." City fans, more than most, know that the Governance of football is rotten to the core here and abroad. It's time the game was cleaned up properly.

Indeed.

It's well documented he takes certain journalists to dinner on a regular basis. He's been phoning round them this morning to change the narrative, listening to the bloke on talkshite now it's blatent.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The Telegraph, specifically Paul Kelso I believe, were given some earth-shattering stuff some time ago with clear evidence of large-scale corruption in the game including phone call recordings/transcripts and suspicious betting patterns but they never ran it. Yet they managed to run a headline splash with a nasty little sting. If it's a taster for some of the big stuff they already have that they're going to throw in then fine. But if it's just minor league stuff then it'll garner a few headlines but be next week's chip-paper.

You could be right but there seems to be no comeback if it's not the major story it's made out to be.
The Sunday Times had 'evidence' of widespread performance enhancing drug taking by Arsenal, Chelsea and Leicester. They presented absolutely no evidence, save for some deluded 'doctor' who quickly recanted the whole thing (false and misleading were his words) and yet the journalist and his bosses walk away unscathed.

 

[mat]

The Telegraph, specifically Paul Kelso I believe, were given some earth-shattering stuff some time ago with clear evidence of large-scale corruption in the game including phone call recordings/transcripts and suspicious betting patterns but they never ran it. Yet they managed to run a headline splash with a nasty little sting. If it's a taster for some of the big stuff they already have that they're going to throw in then fine. But if it's just minor league stuff then it'll garner a few headlines but be next week's chip-paper.

I'm hoping the delay on this is for legal opinion. Sadly I suspect not. As you say it might be allegations made against ex coaches/managers which will mean nothing.

 

[che_don_john]

He talked about how to get around FA rules
He slagged off his employers the FA
He took the piss out of the last manager Roy
He negotiated a £400k deal

Any one of them would get an average person sacked from their job I don't see why Fat Sam should be any different?

1) No, he said it was possible (which we all know)
2) Who hasn't slagged off their employers?!
3) Because he was atrocious
4) To which he added that any arrangement would have to be cleared by the FA

The only thing he is guilty of here is showing a lack of class and being his usual big-headed, fat-gobbed self. I can't stand the man and he's got away with things in the past (e.g. BBC investigation that couldn't stick due to inadmissible evidence) but so far he hasn't done anything illegal or sackable.

That might change as the story develops, but I worry that such a weak 'sting' will serve only to strengthen his position and weaken the impact of other more valid and serious accusations of the past or in the future (a la Keith Vaz).

 

[mat]

You could be right but there seems to be no comeback if it's not the major story it's made out to be.
The Sunday Times had 'evidence' of widespread performance enhancing drug taking by Arsenal, Chelsea and Leicester. They presented absolutely no evidence, save for some deluded 'doctor' who quickly recanted the whole thing (false and misleading were his words) and yet the journalist and his bosses walk away unscathed.

Just pointing out that the tory party are in crisis over Brexit, people are wising up to media bias on Labour. So the Torygraph runs with sensationalist headlines for a week to hope it dies down before their conference.
(Cynics view)

 

[Phil1]

Funny how many of the journos who didn't get the scoop are calling it a non-story and think Sam has done nothing wrong.
Can't take any of the industry serious. It's all me me me with the lot of them.

I doubt the FA have the balls to do the right thing either. Ahh well, as you were, nothing to see here.

 

[aguero93:20]

I remember being told some years ago about a certain reasonably well-known manager being given a briefcase full of notes in connection with a transfer. I was told this was seen as a 'perk' of the job.

The guy who told me was quite well-connected in business circles, but I was never quite sure whether the story was bollocks or not. The suspicious part of me thinks that this might have been quite common practice at one time.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...hotel-room-in-genoa-in-a-mysterious-burgalry/

Wonder if he'll be going for the Mario excuse?