Altercation at Terminal 2

[Ohrodneyrodney]

He won’t. He will either fuck off with his newly found fame, or come up with some bullshit to maintain their innocence

Stood there pontificating like his ‘clients’ were innocent bystanders. Imbecile.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Andy Burnham was right then? It wasn’t clear cut.

 

[Kinkybyname]

Andy Burnham was right then? It wasn’t clear cut.

it was never going to be

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I respect your opinion Colin, but what was the root cause?

The root cause appears to have been an altercation between members of the public. It would seem that (a) the police in attendance maybe could have handled it better and (b) two people completely lost it.

 

[metalblue]

Wrote this in the policing thread but will post it here too.

Seen the new footage.

Didn't think it was well handled from the outset when the officer pushed one of the suspects head down immediately, seemed to kick things off.

However the two lads should be arrested and charged for assaulting 4 police officers, not least punching two women officers.

The officer who stamped on his head will get a disciplinary hearing. It was clearly wrong in an ordinary situation but the fact he looked concussed from mulitple blows to the head will be a mitigating factor. I don't think he'll lose his job over it. At least he shouldn't, imo.

It's why everyone needed to chill until further information and footage was released. The person who released it without showing the assaults on the officers clearly knew what he was doing.

Also, the extremist agitators on both the Anti-Muslim and the Anti-Police side should all shut the fuck up.

I think that’s probably right. He’ll use being confused and concussed, fearing for his life and that of his colleagues and the general public as reason for his actions. That may well be the truth, only he will know.

It’s not illegal to resist arrest but we need strong sentences for violently resisting arrest to send out a message and let our police know we’re on their side when they are trying to do the right thing, often in very difficult circumstances- the current max is 2 years I believe for violence attempting to get away from being detained but the act of trying to get away carries no punishment. Having a swing at dibble or pulling a knife when you’re going for a stay in the big house anyway and you might get an extra 2 at most versus getting away? That’s not a deterrent.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

it was never going to be

Only by those with an agenda

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

Fucking vermin. I hope they get sent down. Cheeky cunts trying to play the victim.

 

[argyle]

The lad had been tazered and was flat out. Justified or not, you can't then dish out your own punishment when you are a copper. Pity though as those cunts deserved more than a head kick.

True and ordinarily this would be correct.

However the police officer involved was hit multiple times in the head and was very unsteady on the floor and when standing. He seemed concussed.

This will be used in his mitigation. He himself and two other women officers were beaten by a guy that looked like he had trained how to fight. He'll say either he wanted him to stay down or he wasn't thinking straight given what happened.

 

[meltonblue]

It may have been mon autre thinking about it! Apologies.

Definitely wasn’t me, I haven’t commented on it.

I’ll do a bit now though :) On both vids, I think there’s still a bit more to come out yet still, but personally I think it’s a given the two that assaulted the police officers should be in jail. I find the whole thing really odd given they supposedly have police officers in their family and the statement Paul Waugh put out saying there was more context to it, there’s no justification I can think of for them attacking the police officers the way they did at all and surely they’d have known what was going to happen the moment they did what they did.

On the question of if too much brutality was used, I think a lot would say no given the assault on them by the two of them. It does raise a question on how well they’ve been trained to deal with that situation though to allow it to get to where it did. That second vid looks like a strange way to arrest someone and you’ve effectively got three armed police leaving themselves completely vulnerable, imagine if one of them had managed to steal their gun and was intent on not just having a punch up.

If we’re going to ask people to protect us and put their own lives at risk in doing so, we’ve got to make sure they’re fully trained to do so. Maybe they are and there’s more too it when the next episode comes out.

I doubt their lawyer will be doing much more speaking publicly in the next few days…

 

[BerkshireBlue]

That policeman needs a better team around him, can't fault the female officer that was knocked down but the other officer that moved out to the right leaving his colleague in a 2 v 1 situation should be ashamed of himself, if those men had knives it could have turned very ugly

unlikely to have knives at an airport though.