Alvarez replacement thread

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

A versatle centre-forward is definitely no out of the question, most of the players I and others suggested are versatile, and can play out wide but their best position is the one we need to fill, striker.

Honestly, if you want an attackingt midfielder who can do a job in the false 9 - why sign anyone at all?

Tend to think who will be a striker, first and foremost from the noise. Additional roles a bonus.

 

[mattcity5]

David scored 19 Ligue 1 goals last season in 34 games.

Lacazette scored 19 in 29 games in Ligue 1 last season.

I don't know where you are getting "my logic" from also, I never mentioned we should buy a striker, I have mentioned we should buy an attacking player that can play in numerous positions, What's the point buying an out and out striker as he won't get minutes? Which is why we should buy a attacking player that's versatile.

You might have missed it further back in this thread, but some of the discussion is around a tweet by Tolmie, stating the below:



Some of the names are based on this idea. It sounds like a striker, and not somebody amazing. Either somebody young, somebody old, or somebody out of favour, who could be a backup for a season.

Maybe longer term we are after Musiala or someone like that, but maybe we know we'd have to wait a year, so a stopgap.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

What you like Phillips

Not saying that but why swap one waste of space for another?

 

[SWPISHOME]

A versatle centre-forward is definitely no out of the question, most of the players I and others suggested are versatile, and can play out wide but their best position is the one we need to fill, striker.

Honestly, if you want an attackingt midfielder who can do a job in the false 9 - why sign anyone at all?

I never said "attacking midfielder" I said a versatile attacking player who can play anywhere across the front three or play the false 9 role, I said earlier in the window me personally I'd love to see Dani Olmo or Musiala although Musiala would be a big ask getting him away from Bayern.

You keep saying "Why sign anyone at all?", You were the one who said that we should sign a player "willing to sit on the bench for the season" yet you are asking me why bother signing a False 9...It makes zero sense.

The whole point of this conversation was the players you've mentioned, Szmodics, Wright, Hee Chan, Eduoard, Moussa Dembele ect...None of them are anywhere near good enough, Not even good enough to sit on our bench.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

No, I suspect he believes Calvert-Lewin to be shite.

He isn’t shite though is he? He is just injury prone.
Also who would give more to our team Phillips or Calvert -Lewin both are struggling.
Lastly we were talking about players that would be happy to come and play very occasionally we know he has his modelling career so perhaps he would sit on the bench

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Not saying that but why swap one waste of space for another?

I know both are bad

 

[Tevez City]

Its nice to go shopping to feel happy , but actually I don't think City needs to buy anyone.

With the addition of Bobbinho & Savinho, that means Foden & Bernardo will stay in the middle

And they can play the false nine role whenever needed.

 

[SWPISHOME]

You might have missed it further back in this thread, but some of the discussion is around a tweet by Tolmie, stating the below:



Some of the names are based on this idea. It sounds like a striker, and not somebody amazing. Either somebody young, somebody old, or somebody out of favour, who could be a backup for a season.

Maybe longer term we are after Musiala or someone like that, but maybe we know we'd have to wait a year, so a stopgap.

I appreciate Tolmie with his posts but he's not always correct, It may well be the case we could be after someone on loan ect, I just hope it's none of the names that have been mentioned for me personally none of which should be brought in, I'd prefer we didn't bring anybody in than some of the names brought up.

I'm not after an argument, I just don't understand the "bringing in a player willing to sit on the bench" he's best off sitting at home if that's the case.

Apologies if it feels like I'm having a go @kun it's not my intention.

We disagree on striker or versatile that's sound it's all good and we move on.

 

[mattcity5]

I appreciate Tolmie with his posts but he's not always correct, It may well be the case we could be after someone on loan ect, I just hope it's none of the names that have been mentioned for me personally none of which should be brought in, I'd prefer we didn't bring anybody in than some of the names brought up.

I'm not after an argument, I just don't understand the "bringing in a player willing to sit on the bench" he's best off sitting at home if that's the case.

Apologies if it feels like I'm having a go @kun it's not my intention.

We disagree on striker or versatile that's sound it's all good and we move on.

That's all fair enough mate. I'm just enjoying speculating tbh - even if it's on players I certainly wouldn't want to be regulars for us!

I guess signing a stopgap would be okay with me, provided it is only as a stopgap and it meant that we'd get someone more appropriate to our standing the following season.

We wouldn't know if that was the case for another year though.

 

[kun]

I never said "attacking midfielder" I said a versatile attacking player who can play anywhere across the front three or play the false 9 role, I said earlier in the window me personally I'd love to see Dani Olmo or Musiala although Musiala would be a big ask getting him away from Bayern.

You keep saying "Why sign anyone at all?", You were the one who said that we should sign a player "willing to sit on the bench for the season" yet you are asking me why bother signing a False 9...It makes zero sense.

The whole point of this conversation was the players you've mentioned, Szmodics, Wright, Hee Chan, Eduoard, Moussa Dembele ect...None of them are anywhere near good enough, Not even good enough to sit on our bench.

"I didn't say attacking midfielder" *lists 2 attacking midfielders*
And one of them you admit is basically unavailable and the other one just moved to Barcelona!

I say it's pointless signing a false 9 because:
a. there are essentially no players who play a false 9 regularly, and are usually just attacking midfielders who can sometimes play up front
b. we already have an abundance of that kind of player
c. I understand if you don't think they are good enough but I disagree (potentially). They would be punts but they would be low risk punts who could play our cup games, give Haaland a rest in some league games and be an option off the bench.

I appreciate Tolmie with his posts but he's not always correct, It may well be the case we could be after someone on loan ect, I just hope it's none of the names that have been mentioned for me personally none of which should be brought in, I'd prefer we didn't bring anybody in than some of the names brought up.

I'm not after an argument, I just don't understand the "bringing in a player willing to sit on the bench" he's best off sitting at home if that's the case.

Apologies if it feels like I'm having a go @kun it's not my intention.

We disagree on striker or versatile that's sound it's all good and we move on.

I don't feel like you're having a go, it's all good. I just think if we want to use the false 9 idea as back-up for Haaland then we may as well just use what we have, but if we want a striker/goalscorer replacement (which Tolmie suggests we do, and I would personally prefer) then there are cheap, low key, low risk players we could sign.

I'm not a scout so my suggestions are just based on what I've seen and read - there's a good chance Txiki and Pep agree with you that none are City's level. I don't know though.

 

[MCFCFanTX]

We could get creative. Swap deal with Barca involving Joao Cancelo and Vitor Roque.

 

[SWPISHOME]

"I didn't say attacking midfielder" *lists 2 attacking midfielders*
And one of them you admit is basically unavailable and the other one just moved to Barcelona!

I say it's pointless signing a false 9 because:
a. there are essentially no players who play a false 9 regularly, and are usually just attacking midfielders who can sometimes play up front
b. we already have an abundance of that kind of player
c. I understand if you don't think they are good enough but I disagree (potentially). They would be punts but they would be low risk punts who could play our cup games, give Haaland a rest in some league games and be an option off the bench.


I don't feel like you're having a go, it's all good. I just think if we want to use the false 9 idea as back-up for Haaland then we may as well just use what we have, but if we want a striker/goalscorer replacement (which Tolmie suggests we do, and I would personally prefer) then there are cheap, low key, low risk players we could sign.

I'm not a scout so my suggestions are just based on what I've seen and read - there's a good chance Txiki and Pep agree with you that none are City's level. I don't know though.

Musiala plays in behind Harry Kane in certain games, He also plays out wide when Muller plays in behind Harry Kane, He's a versatile player someone who would suit our system.

Dani Olmo yes has obviously joined Barcelona, As I've mentioned "earlier in the window" I was hoping we would be all over Olmo, Again, Another player who's versatile popped up in numerous different positions with Leipzig as they played a 4-2-2-2 and he also knows how to play the false 9 which he's done with Spain senior team on accessions and doing so with the u-21's.

We must have different opinions on what an "attacking midfielder" actually is, I'd see Frank Lampard as an attacking midfielder, Not versatile like Olmo or Musiala.

We'll agree to disagree on the players mentioned, Personally I'd have alot higher hopes for who we bring in to replace Alvarez even as a "stop gap", I think going from Alvarez to Sammy Szmodics is like leaving Kim Kardashian and having an affair with Susan Boyle.

We could go on all day about it, Best to catch up in a pub and talk bollocks over a few pints!

 

[Kippaxpete]

He isn’t shite though is he? He is just injury prone.
Also who would give more to our team Phillips or Calvert -Lewin both are struggling.
Lastly we were talking about players that would be happy to come and play very occasionally we know he has his modelling career so perhaps he would sit on the bench

Notwithstanding his injury record, the bottom 15 percentile in terms of non-penalty goals for a striker in the PL and average passing completion percentage of 56.4 last season. I rest my case your honour. He should stick to wearing his clown outfits.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Could this be an option?

 

[MCFC Wirral]

Good players can become great players with a better team around them. Look at all the talent Pep has improved over the years.

 

[Newmoston1212]

Don’t know if this player has been said but I do quite rate, Jean-Philippe Mateta at Palace. Banged in a lot of goals back end of last season & was decent in the Olympics

 

[LongsightM13]

Time to unearth another Akanji style hidden gem at a bargain price

 

[loio]

I guess Im posting it here as well as there's not many names around, I went with Tommies criteria.
"Direct striker replacement for Alvarez. It might not be stellar name and could even be an initial loan."

Satiago Gimenez from Feyenoord.. hes still there. Im going after Tolmis guidelines BTW. He probably wants first eleven starts though, and maybe too expensive for the criteria thoguh. Jonathan David earlier in the thread was a decent shout as well
Porto just turned down a bid bid for Evanilson so he wont be cheap
Mateta from palace.. lol, looks the part lately though, will pre be expensive nowadays though, bad timing
A loan for Borja Mayoral.. will be cheap cos he failed his medical to go to Villarreal and they will have a hard time shifting him now(Getafe). Man can finish.
Gonzalo Ramos might be surplus to requirements at PSG if Oshimen goes there.. doesnt look so at the moment though. Loan+buy option
edit: adding Vitor Roque from Barca just cos he was highly rated and prob. erveything has gone wrong for him, rel. cheap. Likes to work and run like Julian

If another requirement arrives the level and bar will be much higher of course.

 

[Cozmo Bozo]

Swap Cancelo for Vitor Roque. Watch him score 30 goals off the bench and make the Brazil team. Sell for 70m in 2 years. Sorted.

 

[kun]

Vitor Roque isn’t a bad shout tbh