am i wrong for going a bit annoyed about this? (blackpool)

[dw7]

for me the difference is that it's systematic when done through the OSC

Personally I believe that it is individuals abusing the system, be they members of a supporters club or not. I would feel equally as pissed off if I lost out on a ticket to a supporters club member with insufficient points as I would losing out on the ticket to a non-supporters club member with insufficient points.

There again I'm not sure that I fully agree with the points system being used for tickets anyway.

what else can you do other than the points system

 

[PragueBlue]

Personally I believe that it is individuals abusing the system, be they members of a supporters club or not. I would feel equally as pissed off if I lost out on a ticket to a supporters club member with insufficient points as I would losing out on the ticket to a non-supporters club member with insufficient points.

There again I'm not sure that I fully agree with the points system being used for tickets anyway.

what else can you do other than the points system

That's for minds much smarter than my own to work out. I have no idea what other clubs do and whether or not their systems are the same, better or worse but would be interesting to know.

 

[bluebandits]

I think we have to be careful what we wish for here. Do we want to go down the same road as the scum, where it is a ticket lottery because they believe that all supporters are equal and loyalty is a given. I am ahamed to say that I have a couple of Rag aquaitances, who go home and away and have been blown out on European away tickets because of this lottery. I think whatever system is in place, it will be a nightmare to police

 

[yozzer]

just had a text of my mate ..i am going to name the fookers lol ..cos they are takeing the piss....they are both in block 111...lee and alex...the little bar stewards are now on there way to the redish branch to pay for there blackpool tickets....it wrong ffs...i have to swet my back out when they come on sale because i did not want to join a branch,,,

 

[dw7]

what else can you do other than the points system

That's for minds much smarter than my own to work out. I have no idea what other clubs do and whether or not their systems are the same, better or worse but would be interesting to know.

united and celtic do ballots wouldnt be into that someone may have only been to 1 home game in their life but get a final ticket where as someone going for years miss out

not sure how true this is but i was told at untied the more expensive your season ticket the more times your name goes into the balot

not sure how other big supported clubs do it though like chelsea arsenal spurs and liverpool

having said all that its only 3/4 times a year if even that city need to use the points system so i dont see any reason to change the system<br /><br />-- Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:29 pm --<br /><br />

just had a text of my mate ..i am going to name the fookers lol ..cos they are takeing the piss....they are both in block 111...lee and alex...the little bar stewards are now on there way to the redish branch to pay for there blackpool tickets....it wrong ffs...i have to swet my back out when they come on sale because i did not want to join a branch,,,

just because they pay dont mean they will get them

 

[squirtyflower]

just had a text of my mate ..i am going to name the fookers lol ..cos they are takeing the piss....they are both in block 111...lee and alex...the little bar stewards are now on there way to the redish branch to pay for there blackpool tickets....it wrong ffs...i have to swet my back out when they come on sale because i did not want to join a branch,,,

just because they pay dont mean they will get them

what

 

[mcfcnorthstand]

A lot what has been said on here to defend tickets that OSC order, reminds me of what the MP's said "well it's the system thats at fault for allowing us to claim our expenses, as its been in operation for years and years. Not us MP's that are wrong for claiming expenses".

The fact is it was wrong for the MP's to claim expenses full stop.

The fact is it is also wrong for OSC memers to be able to get tickets that they don't have the correct loyalty points for.

Answer is no tickets for OSC, and everyone to order there own tickets, on there own card with correct loylaty points.

 

[dw7]

just because they pay dont mean they will get them

what

they pay but if that club doen't get the amount they wanted some will have to get their money back

 

[squirtyflower]

A lot what has been said on here to defend tickets that OSC order, reminds me of what the MP's said "well it's the system thats at fault for allowing us to claim our expenses, as its been in operation for years and years. Not us MP's that are wrong for claiming expenses".

The fact is it was wrong for the MP's to claim expenses full stop.

The fact is it is also wrong for OSC memers to be able to get tickets that they don't have the correct loyalty points for.

Answer is no tickets for OSC, and everyone to order their own tickets, on their own card with correct loylaty points.

FAO of OSC apologists

 

[Interstate 5]

Answer is no tickets for OSC, and everyone to order there own tickets, on there own card with correct loylaty points.

Situation A: A load of mates will want to sit together, so one of them goes to the ground with, say 8 cards with enough points. If one of them subsequently can't go, they pass their ticket on, probably to someone who doesn't have enough points as they would have gone with the original order.

Situation B: Billy wants to go to the match but doesn't have enough points. He knows Johnny normally goes but can't make this one, so asks him to get him a ticket.

In both cases these are a bunch of mates who meet down the pub, or all post on the same website called, erm, Moonblue or something, a bit like an OSC, but without "official" approval.

Truth is every system is open to abuse unless we take ridiculous steps to prevent it, like photo ID proofs on the gate etc which would have people screaming Big Brother - another thread has gone into overdrive at the suggestion the club might know the names of 32 people on a bus.

We brought in the card style access scheme to cut out touting, and while it's had a big effect, it's not foolproof because we've had to strike a balance with the needs of "the customer".

I guess what I'm trying to say in short is that there's no easy (and morally right) solution that will please everyone.