am i wrong for going a bit annoyed about this? (blackpool)

[mancitymick]

Just a quck question.

Is there any reason why an OSC member can't ring up the ticket office/line and get his or her own ticket, just like the rest of us?

If not, I fully understand and appreciate the roll of the OSC in getting members tickets, who either don't have a telephone landline, a mobile phone or internet connection.
I rest my case.

On to the favourable beer prices the OSC members receive. ;-)

not if there is a group of people the osc get them all to sit together

LOL

 

[dw7]

I have a solution for any final that we reach this season.

That City do not distribute any tickets to any branches. All tickets must be collected in person at the stadium, or posted to supporters who can't get to the stadium(due to where they live, etc), on the proviso that they have enough loyalty points.

Is that fair? Damned right it is.

and if you get a ticket but cant go will you return it to mcfc or give/sell it to a family member or mate

3rd time i have asked you this question

 

[tasker]

At least everyone here gets loyalty points... I go with the club bar east stand because its cheap, but we don't get points at all. So if I wanted to go to an away game, im expected to cough up £100+. Bit of a kick in the bollox really, citys hospitality seems reasonable, but if I wanted to go on an away game I have to pay the full wack by the looks of it.

everybody who goes to an away match has to pay full wack

 

[bluebandits]

As said earlier, most of our travelling members would be entitled to a tkt by the 2nd day of sale, so if I am prepared to submit an application on their behalf and drive down to the stadium to pick the tkts up, what difference does it make? The main selling point within our Branch is the cheap transport to away games. We get good prices from a local coach company and sometimes double up with another local Branch.

 

[jrb]

I have a solution for any final that we reach this season.

That City do not distribute any tickets to any branches. All tickets must be collected in person at the stadium, or posted to supporters who can't get to the stadium(due to where they live, etc), on the proviso that they have enough loyalty points.

Is that fair? Damned right it is.

and if you get a ticket but cant go will you return it to mcfc or give/sell it to a family member or mate

3rd time i have asked you this question

TBH, I've never passed a ticket on for a match that's 'sold out'. I've always gone. Good try.

TBH, your trying to deflect from the real issue. Nobody is having a pop at OSC members who deserve tickets. It's those members who don't deserve tickets and get them, because they're mates with the Secretary, or whoever distributes the tickets.

Put it this way. How would you feel if you found out that a person you knew in your or any other OSC branch got a ticket for a final this season, at your expense, even though you've earned the right to one, due to the away matches you've attended and the loyalty points you've earned. Just admit it mate, it would piss you off big time.

And yes, I've seen and witnessed that scenario at first hand. And yes, I did tell him what I thought about it.

 

[squirtyflower]

Remind me next time to get a camera to gather evidence for you. Do you issue tickets to those without enough points? thus by passing the criteria. look fans can get tickets from other means however they should be sold to the fans with the right points through mcfc first.

Why now all of a sudden. This criteria has been used for years. The camera comment was uncalled for, you could trot out any kind of story on here without backing it up, do you think thats fair. Do you think it's alright for you to besmirch the character of every Branch committee member with UNSUBSTANTIATED remarks. Believe it or not, we are not all wide boys out to make a buck we genuinely care about the branch and its social responsibility.

i agree wholeheartedly with that comment

however some members (not branches) are abusing the system
as admitted by one arrogant poster on here
and to defend them is wrong, and doing a disservice to those who are above board

 

[PragueBlue]

however some members (not branches) are abusing the system
as admitted by one arrogant poster on here
and to defend them is wrong, and doing a disservice to those who are above board

I would agree with that however it's also worth pointing out that non-members also abuse the system, so the issue goes beyond supporters clubs.

 

[bluebandits]

Why now all of a sudden. This criteria has been used for years. The camera comment was uncalled for, you could trot out any kind of story on here without backing it up, do you think thats fair. Do you think it's alright for you to besmirch the character of every Branch committee member with UNSUBSTANTIATED remarks. Believe it or not, we are not all wide boys out to make a buck we genuinely care about the branch and its social responsibility.

i agree wholeheartedly with that comment

however some members (not branches) are abusing the system
as admitted by one arrogant poster on here
and to defend them is wrong, and doing a disservice to those who are above board

I have just been PM'd by one of the lads and made aware of the bragging about tickets and I am in agreement with you 100%. If this fella was in our Branch he wouldnt make it onto the application and would be reported to Kevin Parker Gen Sec OSC

 

[squirtyflower]

however some members (not branches) are abusing the system
as admitted by one arrogant poster on here
and to defend them is wrong, and doing a disservice to those who are above board

I would agree with that however it's also worth pointing out that non-members also abuse the system, so the issue goes beyond supporters clubs.

for me the difference is that it's systematic when done through the OSC

 

[PragueBlue]

I would agree with that however it's also worth pointing out that non-members also abuse the system, so the issue goes beyond supporters clubs.

for me the difference is that it's systematic when done through the OSC

Personally I believe that it is individuals abusing the system, be they members of a supporters club or not. I would feel equally as pissed off if I lost out on a ticket to a supporters club member with insufficient points as I would losing out on the ticket to a non-supporters club member with insufficient points.

There again I'm not sure that I fully agree with the points system being used for tickets anyway.

 

[dw7]

for me the difference is that it's systematic when done through the OSC

Personally I believe that it is individuals abusing the system, be they members of a supporters club or not. I would feel equally as pissed off if I lost out on a ticket to a supporters club member with insufficient points as I would losing out on the ticket to a non-supporters club member with insufficient points.

There again I'm not sure that I fully agree with the points system being used for tickets anyway.

what else can you do other than the points system

 

[PragueBlue]

Personally I believe that it is individuals abusing the system, be they members of a supporters club or not. I would feel equally as pissed off if I lost out on a ticket to a supporters club member with insufficient points as I would losing out on the ticket to a non-supporters club member with insufficient points.

There again I'm not sure that I fully agree with the points system being used for tickets anyway.

what else can you do other than the points system

That's for minds much smarter than my own to work out. I have no idea what other clubs do and whether or not their systems are the same, better or worse but would be interesting to know.

 

[bluebandits]

I think we have to be careful what we wish for here. Do we want to go down the same road as the scum, where it is a ticket lottery because they believe that all supporters are equal and loyalty is a given. I am ahamed to say that I have a couple of Rag aquaitances, who go home and away and have been blown out on European away tickets because of this lottery. I think whatever system is in place, it will be a nightmare to police

 

[yozzer]

just had a text of my mate ..i am going to name the fookers lol ..cos they are takeing the piss....they are both in block 111...lee and alex...the little bar stewards are now on there way to the redish branch to pay for there blackpool tickets....it wrong ffs...i have to swet my back out when they come on sale because i did not want to join a branch,,,

 

[dw7]

what else can you do other than the points system

That's for minds much smarter than my own to work out. I have no idea what other clubs do and whether or not their systems are the same, better or worse but would be interesting to know.

united and celtic do ballots wouldnt be into that someone may have only been to 1 home game in their life but get a final ticket where as someone going for years miss out

not sure how true this is but i was told at untied the more expensive your season ticket the more times your name goes into the balot

not sure how other big supported clubs do it though like chelsea arsenal spurs and liverpool

having said all that its only 3/4 times a year if even that city need to use the points system so i dont see any reason to change the system<br /><br />-- Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:29 pm --<br /><br />

just had a text of my mate ..i am going to name the fookers lol ..cos they are takeing the piss....they are both in block 111...lee and alex...the little bar stewards are now on there way to the redish branch to pay for there blackpool tickets....it wrong ffs...i have to swet my back out when they come on sale because i did not want to join a branch,,,

just because they pay dont mean they will get them

 

[squirtyflower]

just had a text of my mate ..i am going to name the fookers lol ..cos they are takeing the piss....they are both in block 111...lee and alex...the little bar stewards are now on there way to the redish branch to pay for there blackpool tickets....it wrong ffs...i have to swet my back out when they come on sale because i did not want to join a branch,,,

just because they pay dont mean they will get them

what

 

[mcfcnorthstand]

A lot what has been said on here to defend tickets that OSC order, reminds me of what the MP's said "well it's the system thats at fault for allowing us to claim our expenses, as its been in operation for years and years. Not us MP's that are wrong for claiming expenses".

The fact is it was wrong for the MP's to claim expenses full stop.

The fact is it is also wrong for OSC memers to be able to get tickets that they don't have the correct loyalty points for.

Answer is no tickets for OSC, and everyone to order there own tickets, on there own card with correct loylaty points.

 

[dw7]

just because they pay dont mean they will get them

what

they pay but if that club doen't get the amount they wanted some will have to get their money back

 

[squirtyflower]

A lot what has been said on here to defend tickets that OSC order, reminds me of what the MP's said "well it's the system thats at fault for allowing us to claim our expenses, as its been in operation for years and years. Not us MP's that are wrong for claiming expenses".

The fact is it was wrong for the MP's to claim expenses full stop.

The fact is it is also wrong for OSC memers to be able to get tickets that they don't have the correct loyalty points for.

Answer is no tickets for OSC, and everyone to order their own tickets, on their own card with correct loylaty points.

FAO of OSC apologists

 

[Interstate 5]

Answer is no tickets for OSC, and everyone to order there own tickets, on there own card with correct loylaty points.

Situation A: A load of mates will want to sit together, so one of them goes to the ground with, say 8 cards with enough points. If one of them subsequently can't go, they pass their ticket on, probably to someone who doesn't have enough points as they would have gone with the original order.

Situation B: Billy wants to go to the match but doesn't have enough points. He knows Johnny normally goes but can't make this one, so asks him to get him a ticket.

In both cases these are a bunch of mates who meet down the pub, or all post on the same website called, erm, Moonblue or something, a bit like an OSC, but without "official" approval.

Truth is every system is open to abuse unless we take ridiculous steps to prevent it, like photo ID proofs on the gate etc which would have people screaming Big Brother - another thread has gone into overdrive at the suggestion the club might know the names of 32 people on a bus.

We brought in the card style access scheme to cut out touting, and while it's had a big effect, it's not foolproof because we've had to strike a balance with the needs of "the customer".

I guess what I'm trying to say in short is that there's no easy (and morally right) solution that will please everyone.