Amsterdam police are a disgrace

MissingCityInMelbourne said:
Having been to countless away games, I know one thing you don't get attacked by police for nothing. If you are sharing a pub with a load of chavs however, there is a good chance you may be caught up in it.


Moral of the story is if you want to avoid police attacks visit more classy places and avoid the blue alliance like the plague as they always find themselves caught up in it, due to some of their members looking like teens that need a good face wash.


Utter tripe. I was eating in a private suite of the Hotel Excelsior when a waiter summoned the riot police in and demanded they belabour me with their batons because he claimed I was using the wrong fish knife. Hope the alsatian chokes on my chateaubriand that it pinched off my plate. I also had my Bolly confiscated at the turnstile. I have e-mailed Queen Beatrix.
 
sweynforkbeard said:
MissingCityInMelbourne said:
Having been to countless away games, I know one thing you don't get attacked by police for nothing. If you are sharing a pub with a load of chavs however, there is a good chance you may be caught up in it.


Moral of the story is if you want to avoid police attacks visit more classy places and avoid the blue alliance like the plague as they always find themselves caught up in it, due to some of their members looking like teens that need a good face wash.


Utter tripe. I was eating in a private suite of the Hotel Excelsior when a waiter summoned the riot police in and demanded they belabour me with their batons because he claimed I was using the wrong fish knife. Hope the alsatian chokes on my chateaubriand that it pinched off my plate. I also had my Bolly confiscated at the turnstile. I have e-mailed Queen Beatrix.

I hate tripe
 
had been drinking at the old sailor for a good 3 hours and started to get absolutely smashed literally in the centre of the bridge opposite it, decided to go for a bite to eat with a mate, came back and there were riot police everywhere even a good couple of blocks away - headed back over to the old sailor but I just knew and got the feeling there was a fair bit of trouble! Few police charges pushing us back and decided enough was enough - went back to our hostel (St Christopher's) and they'd locked the doors and a few Ajax fans getting arrested just outside - was just bizzare again..
 
sweynforkbeard said:
MissingCityInMelbourne said:
Having been to countless away games, I know one thing you don't get attacked by police for nothing. If you are sharing a pub with a load of chavs however, there is a good chance you may be caught up in it.


Moral of the story is if you want to avoid police attacks visit more classy places and avoid the blue alliance like the plague as they always find themselves caught up in it, due to some of their members looking like teens that need a good face wash.


Utter tripe. I was eating in a private suite of the Hotel Excelsior when a waiter summoned the riot police in and demanded they belabour me with their batons because he claimed I was using the wrong fish knife. Hope the alsatian chokes on my chateaubriand that it pinched off my plate. I also had my Bolly confiscated at the turnstile. I have e-mailed Queen Beatrix.


A fish knife for chateaubriand, I hope the good queen has you be-headed.
 
mancmackem said:
I was just down from the Old Sailor.

City threw the first bottle over the river, which led to Ajax fans being cleared. 15 mins later the dogs came out of nowhere and we were stuck in a doorway with nowhere to go. I just put my hands up and walked down past the dog and right into the pub next door. Didnt help some dickhead blue throwing a pint in the dogs face as i walked past. This happened to two police dogs in this time.

To summarise, this was the only bad bit of police work all day but it was to an extreme scale. One blue around 50 was cleaning himself up in the pub after a baton around the head for no reason. But City were no saints and started the first bit of trouble with the bottle.

Not heard anything about Dam square. Didnt hear any Guidetti songs either but i was only in the red light district area.

I was in that same doorway and it was my mate that took the baton to his head, it was totally uncalled for and a disgrace.

I've seen some bizarre decisions that have been made by Police in the past following England but this beat the lot.

I don't understand why they never moved the 50 or so Ajax fans on rather than let it get to that stage in the first place?.......surely they must of learnt from previous European games?

Do you really think they would've let 50 City fans congregate outside a bar in Rembrandtplein where Ajax all meet?
 
Just got in, avoided the Red light district like the plague on matchday, knew Ajax were tasty, and we all know what European police are like with football fans, so I missed all the aggro.

Fucking police at the stadium though, throw you in the enclosure, and leave you to it, with 4 turnstiles for 2500, and however many trying to jib it, nearly bent myself in two getting stuck on the barrier, had to climb over and run across. Fucking shambles.
 
We saw the "riot" from about 30 yards away, in a bar down the alleyway next to the Jolly Sailor. We could see it was likely as early as 2pm, as far too many were pissed/stoned, in far too small an area. It was a great atmosphere at that point, because by and large the Ajax fans were still at work/home, but once they came out to play, it was always likely to go off.

We saw the first bottles or glasses get thrown, and then the horses come in, at that point we knew it was time to move elsewhere, so we found a bar nearer Dam square, and sat in there chatting with Ajax fans. About 6 we went for some food on the walk up to the station.

Having read the email from City to the supporters, we also decided that getting up to the stadium early would be a sensible idea, it said in there that there would be 3 security checks at the ground. Anyone who read that should have worked out that the normal practise of arriving 15 minutes prior to kick off was going to be a problem, and doing so with several hundred pissed/stoned football fans was likely to cause disorder. I'm not condoning what I heard went on in the queue outside, and there is clearly not adequate turnstiles for 2700 fans.

My own experience with their police was that we had no problem with any of them, we went by car, and went and positioned our car in a car park near the ground at lunchtime as we were heading home straight after the game. We parked in a multi storey east of the stadium, and got the metro into the city. When we travalled back about 6:30 ish it was full and mixed, and there was no problem at all. When we got off the train we went back a station from the main Arena station (the previous one was actually nearest the away end), and when we got off the police directed us to the away end, but we wanted to put some stuff in the car, we had no bother there, or getting through the cordons.

I'm sorry that so many people seem to have had issues, but from past experience, and lots of hindsight, most of them can be avoided if you keep your senses about you.
 
Just got home from the dam,had a incident that gives tha Amsterdam police nothing but praise.
We were having a few beers outside the trinity bar,couple of streets before the old sailor in the afternoon.a few pals of mine put there George cross levenshulme blues flag over the nearest bridge.after it had been up less than half hour some Dutch scrote decided to take it down & run off with it ,fleeing down the otherwise of the canal with mike giving chase to recoup his flag.
The Dutch guy disappeared into a bar opposite that was full of Dutch geezers,mike arguing at the door with some of them.then out of the blue an undercover police man came out of the the bar,told mike he'd seen what went on,went back into the bar with a few of his colleagues,retrieved the flag and arrested the perpatrator he later came over to us to get a statement off mike & said he was charging the lad with theft.
Fair play to the undercover police for dealing with this incident that could easily have turned very ugly.
We later went over to the old sailer,saw what was going on there,handbags ,police perhaps over reacted a tad ,but did nip what was getting a little heated in the bud,didn't see any other incidents,had good bit of banter on the train to the game with the Ajax fans,all in all another good trip apart from result of course.
 

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