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Big Willy apparentlyTCIB said:I don't even have a clue what this thread is about tbh :D
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markbmcfc said:ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:The issue with HG is for this season as we are under sanctions by UEFA and money is restricted.
If we went for Barkley we would need £40/£50m yet we could buy an alternative Foreign player for £20m.
What UEFA have done is price good HG players at a very high price which in turn does England national team no favours as good English players are priced out of a move to a top team.
If we went for Walcott we would be priced a higher amount than fo Di Maria which player would the majority go for.
I figured that was where the previous poster was going with it but there is a bigger picture.
Just because, in twelve months time, the spending cap is lifted, it doesn't mean we can start spending fortunes on homegrown players. We still have to balance the books, otherwise there will be further sanctions.
My initial point is based on this season regardless, and the fact that we won't be selling Milner and signing a player like Di Maria. We will either give him a new contract or buy someone ridiculous and have another Scott Sinclair situation. We're about to spend £30m on a defender, we won't get much for Milner, so what Mister Appointment said just isn't going to happen.
If it does, fantastic, but i'll eat my hat.
The homegrown quota is relevant season after season not just under the sanctions we find ourselves under at present. We still have to abide by the rules each season regardless & fill our homegrown quota as we have done previous campaigns.
As you rightly say, we won't be buying the likes of Di Maria without shipping a big money player out first unless we decide to ignore said sanctions/rules & call Uefa's bluff. But that's for monetary reasons with us having a £47m spend limit, homegrown is a different kettle of fish all together & not part of our punishment.
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Nixon_The_Bike_Thief
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Mister Appointment said:Milner's got a year left on his contract and is desperate to leave
Are you basing this on hearsay or fact ?
Nixon_The_Bike_Thief said:Mister Appointment said:Milner's got a year left on his contract and is desperate to leave
Are you basing this on hearsay or fact ?
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fbloke said:Its all gone very quiet from Yaya's end dont you think?
Perhaps he has taken time to properly mourn the loss of his brother and reflect on things in a meaningful way.
Or perhaps he's realised no-one wants him for the money we're asking and he's better staying put.
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fbloke said:Its all gone very quiet from Yaya's end dont you think?
Perhaps he has taken time to properly mourn the loss of his brother and reflect on things in a meaningful way.
It would be better if that were true but based on the way he has behaved to date unlikely. Probably gone off to find some new slight to complain about.
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adrianr said:fbloke said:Its all gone very quiet from Yaya's end dont you think?
Perhaps he has taken time to properly mourn the loss of his brother and reflect on things in a meaningful way.
Or perhaps he's realised no-one wants him for the money we're asking and he's better staying put.
Or perhaps he's been offered a new contract...
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markbmcfc said:Since when is the homegrown quota a one season sanction?! It's a long term issue that we and many clubs have, especially the better clubs given the lack of quality homegrown players.
We are already struggling to fill our quota, especially given the likes of Sinclair, Rodwell and Micah are set to leave. If we then sell Milner, I fail to see why the club would replace him with another foreign player. Of course, in an ideal world we would all want that, but that would just add to the homegrown issue that we currently have.
Replacing him with Walcott for example, is plausible, players like Di Maria - no chance. Unless we sell a foreign player as well as Milner, but even then we'd be short on the homegrown front.
Educate me if I am wrong and i'll take it back.
So basically your argument is that because of the HG quota, if Milner leaves he'll be replaced by a HG player. I don't agree and I still think you're wrong. As I've said, if City cannot replace Milner with a HG player because there isn't a good enough one out there, they will buy a foreign one. Milner made 31 league appearances - that isn't a small amount. A player who makes a contribution on that level, if he leaves, MUST be replaced otherwise the team goes backwards.
Of course the ideal is you wait until next summer because then there's no financial limit on who you can buy to replace him. However if he demands to leave this summer and the right offer comes in, then City will go back into the market and they will have their targets. And going back to the beginning of our exchange. It'll be someone like Di Maria. What we won't be doing is signing Scott Sinclair because he's English, or not replacing Milner because of our issue with HG players.