And so it begins...

allan harper said:
cityboy2602 said:
Richard said:
I've heard he has got a good jump on him.

Just hope he's experienced, the last Joey we had was a bit of a dick....

He's a fantastic jumper. He can skip down the wing. And he has defenders in his pocket. Sign him up!

He'll be easy to sign up now his agent is doing 5 years 9 months.

Maybe we can tie him down to a long term deal?
 
Mister Appointment said:
markbmcfc said:
We are not in a position to sell a homegrown player and replace him with a foreigner, be it Di Maria or someone 'like' him. The only player like Di Maria I'm aware of in that position of similar ability that is homegrown would be Gareth Bale. I refer to my previous kangaroo comment.

Simply put, you're wrong. And if you hadn't been so quick to jump in with both feet without engaging your brain you'd have known that. All I said was if Milner goes, we will replace him with someone like Di Maria. What I mean by someone like Di Maria is an attacking wide player of the requisite quality to be in our squad.

Your homegrown comment is equally wide of the mark IMO because I don't see the club making long term transfer decisions based on a one season sanction. ie. If Milner goes and the replacement the club want is a foreign player they will sign them because the alternative which you're suggesting is to make do with someone like Scott Sinclair who's clearly not good enough or go and buy an English winger who is good enough when patently there are none available.

Enough of the mud flinging for a minute it's ridiculous.

Since when is the homegrown quota a one season sanction?! It's a long term issue that we and many clubs have, especially the better clubs given the lack of quality homegrown players.

We are already struggling to fill our quota, especially given the likes of Sinclair, Rodwell and Micah are set to leave. If we then sell Milner, I fail to see why the club would replace him with another foreign player. Of course, in an ideal world we would all want that, but that would just add to the homegrown issue that we currently have.

Replacing him with Walcott for example, is plausible, players like Di Maria - no chance. Unless we sell a foreign player as well as Milner, but even then we'd be short on the homegrown front.

Educate me if I am wrong and i'll take it back.
 
markbmcfc said:
Mister Appointment said:
markbmcfc said:
We are not in a position to sell a homegrown player and replace him with a foreigner, be it Di Maria or someone 'like' him. The only player like Di Maria I'm aware of in that position of similar ability that is homegrown would be Gareth Bale. I refer to my previous kangaroo comment.

Simply put, you're wrong. And if you hadn't been so quick to jump in with both feet without engaging your brain you'd have known that. All I said was if Milner goes, we will replace him with someone like Di Maria. What I mean by someone like Di Maria is an attacking wide player of the requisite quality to be in our squad.

Your homegrown comment is equally wide of the mark IMO because I don't see the club making long term transfer decisions based on a one season sanction. ie. If Milner goes and the replacement the club want is a foreign player they will sign them because the alternative which you're suggesting is to make do with someone like Scott Sinclair who's clearly not good enough or go and buy an English winger who is good enough when patently there are none available.

Enough of the mud flinging for a minute it's ridiculous.

Since when is the homegrown quota a one season sanction?! It's a long term issue that we and many clubs have, especially the better clubs given the lack of quality homegrown players.

We are already struggling to fill our quota, especially given the likes of Sinclair, Rodwell and Micah are set to leave. If we then sell Milner, I fail to see why the club would replace him with another foreign player. Of course, in an ideal world we would all want that, but that would just add to the homegrown issue that we currently have.

Replacing him with Walcott for example, is plausible, players like Di Maria - no chance. Unless we sell a foreign player as well as Milner, but even then we'd be short on the homegrown front.

Educate me if I am wrong and i'll take it back.

The issue with HG is for this season as we are under sanctions by UEFA and money is restricted.

If we went for Barkley we would need £40/£50m yet we could buy an alternative Foreign player for £20m.

What UEFA have done is price good HG players at a very high price which in turn does England national team no favours as good English players are priced out of a move to a top team.

If we went for Walcott we would be priced a higher amount than fo Di Maria which player would the majority go for.
 
waspish said:
"And So it Begins" has it begun yet?! ;)

I'm not sure if it will begin, at least not soon. Once we've bought one of Benatia/Mangala that's our budget pretty much spent.

We are then reliant on outgoings to fund incomings. Might take us until mid/late August to move on the players we want to, before we can think about making another signing.
 
Murph said:
waspish said:
"And So it Begins" has it begun yet?! ;)

I'm not sure if it will begin, at least not soon. Once we've bought one of Benatia/Mangala that's our budget pretty much spent.

We are then reliant on outgoings to fund incomings. Might take us until mid/late August to move on the players we want to, before we can think about making another signing.

And so it begins will mean the merry go round of transfers once one player moves to a club others then move to others not just to us.
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
The issue with HG is for this season as we are under sanctions by UEFA and money is restricted.

If we went for Barkley we would need £40/£50m yet we could buy an alternative Foreign player for £20m.

What UEFA have done is price good HG players at a very high price which in turn does England national team no favours as good English players are priced out of a move to a top team.

If we went for Walcott we would be priced a higher amount than fo Di Maria which player would the majority go for.

I figured that was where the previous poster was going with it but there is a bigger picture.

Just because, in twelve months time, the spending cap is lifted, it doesn't mean we can start spending fortunes on homegrown players. We still have to balance the books, otherwise there will be further sanctions.

My initial point is based on this season regardless, and the fact that we won't be selling Milner and signing a player like Di Maria. We will either give him a new contract or buy someone ridiculous and have another Scott Sinclair situation. We're about to spend £30m on a defender, we won't get much for Milner, so what Mister Appointment said just isn't going to happen.

If it does, fantastic, but i'll eat my hat.
 

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