Anders Breivik

[Lucky13]

The death penalty is no deterrent to murderers.

It's not supposed to be , that's why it's called a penalty.

So what is it supposed to be, revenge?[/quote

A punishment.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

The death penalty is no deterrent to murderers.

It's not supposed to be , that's why it's called a penalty.

So what is it supposed to be, revenge?

If someone killed your daughter/son would you not like 10 minutes alone with him

Im not advocating the death penalty but losing a child in that way probably does some messed up things to your head

 

[bluemonkey71]

Was in The Beech on Hollingworth Lake when this was going on live yesterday. They were also showing the loop of him and his 'salute'. It's fucking scary what one person is capable of, and what's even more disturbing is his lack of remorse and the absolute self-belief he has done the right thing. Some of the accounts could be heard in the background, one of which was a 13 year old's fatal injuries being inflicted by a bullet to the left eye, shattering his eye socket and eventually his brain. That is just one of the 77 victims he murdered, (as that's what it is, murder).
Alan Brazil was going down the lethal injection route this morning for this ****. Personally I think he should be made to suffer in complete isolation with the absolute bare essentials one needs for the rest of his days, and seeing as he appears to be a healthy 32 year old, that could be 50 years of hell for the fucker. A concrete bed, thin foil sheet, no light, no human contact and 2 bowls of porridge a day. That for the next 50 years is the minimum this twat should expect. Death is too easy.

I like the way you think bro.

+1.

He should not see the light of day ever again.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Yup just let a maniac who kills people for stupid reasons live. I say bring back capital punishment. Not only will it free up the overflowing jails, it will also scare the living daylights out of potential killing spree maniacs.

The death penalty is no deterrent to murderers.

It's not supposed to be , that's why it's called a penalty.

Yes - a penalty that Norway doesn't have on the statute book,as they are a civilized society,so why the fuck is anyone even talking about it on this thread?
It is not a sentencing option,so can all the 'hang 'em' lobby please just let it go?

 

[Lucky13]

The death penalty is no deterrent to murderers.

It's not supposed to be , that's why it's called a penalty.

Yes - a penalty that Norway doesn't have on the statute book,as they are a civilized society,so why the fuck is anyone even talking about it on this thread?
It is not a sentencing option,so can all the 'hang 'em' lobby please just let it go?

Sorry I thought I was on a forum.

 

[pominoz]

It's not supposed to be , that's why it's called a penalty.

So what is it supposed to be, revenge?

If someone killed your daughter/son would you not like 10 minutes alone with him

Im not advocating the death penalty but losing a child in that way probably does some messed up things to your head

Yes, i would want to kill him/her slowly, but that would be my payback.

As a civilised society, we should not execute people in the name of the state.

 

[meeesh]

He has a face you could smack all day long,smug fucker with a terrible haircut as well

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

It's not supposed to be , that's why it's called a penalty.

Yes - a penalty that Norway doesn't have on the statute book,as they are a civilized society,so why the fuck is anyone even talking about it on this thread?
It is not a sentencing option,so can all the 'hang 'em' lobby please just let it go?

Sorry I thought I was on a forum.

Yes,and the topic here is Breivik and his motivation.
The clue is in the thread title if you look hard enough.
What the fuck relevance is you getting up on your hind legs advocating a punishment that isn't even available?
If you want to bore on about the death penalty,then start a thread about it.

 

[Lucky13]

Yes - a penalty that Norway doesn't have on the statute book,as they are a civilized society,so why the fuck is anyone even talking about it on this thread?
It is not a sentencing option,so can all the 'hang 'em' lobby please just let it go?

Sorry I thought I was on a forum.

Yes,and the topic here is Breivik and his motivation.
The clue is in the thread title if you look hard enough.
What the fuck relevance is you getting up on your hind legs advocating a punishment that isn't even available?
If you want to bore on about the death penalty,then start a thread about it.

Other people brought it up and try reading what I posted , I haven't said he should be killed.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Sorry I thought I was on a forum.

Yes,and the topic here is Breivik and his motivation.
The clue is in the thread title if you look hard enough.
What the fuck relevance is you getting up on your hind legs advocating a punishment that isn't even available?
If you want to bore on about the death penalty,then start a thread about it.

Other people brought it up and try reading what I posted , I haven't said he should be killed.

You have stated on here previously that you support the death penalty,so stop backsliding and let it go.
For what it's worth,I don't think that Breivik is insane - he just erroneously believes in a warped set of values that has led him to commit this horrendous act.
In his mind,his actions are merely the 'logical' end result of his distorted view of the world.
We would gain a lot by having psychoanalysts getting an insight into exactly what instigated his actions,because I don't believe that anybody is predisposed to this type of behaviour.
There must have been some 'trigger' or 'tipping point' in a previously rational human being that drove him to this,and that is what experts need to discover.

 

[johnmc]

Woe be tide anyone who disagrees with Fetlocks or he will give it both internet barrels. He, of course, cannot be wrong.

 

[Swales lives]

I don't think any of the court case should be televised. He will become the 'poster boy' for thousands of neo-nazi brain-dead fucks around the world - he probably already is.

Yes, the proceedings need to be reported, but a media black-out on his face and gestures would be appropriate, as no doubt, he will inspire a similar massacre in a U.S. college or wherever in the not too distant future.

Anyway, mad or evil? He's not getting out either way. I bet the psychologists are creaming themselves over this fella.

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

Yes,and the topic here is Breivik and his motivation.
The clue is in the thread title if you look hard enough.
What the fuck relevance is you getting up on your hind legs advocating a punishment that isn't even available?
If you want to bore on about the death penalty,then start a thread about it.

Other people brought it up and try reading what I posted , I haven't said he should be killed.

You have stated on here previously that you support the death penalty,so stop backsliding and let it go.
For what it's worth,I don't think that Breivik is insane - he just erroneously believes in a warped set of values that has led him to commit this horrendous act.
In his mind,his actions are merely the 'logical' end result of his distorted view of the world.
We would gain a lot by having psychoanalysts getting an insight into exactly what instigated his actions,because I don't believe that anybody is predisposed to this type of behaviour.
There must have been some 'trigger' or 'tipping point' in a previously rational human being that drove him to this,and that is what experts need to discover.

Thank you Nij for bringing this thread back on topic. In my opinion he is a terrorist and should be tried as sane, and sentenced accordingly. We can be sure that will be life without parole, despite the fact that under normal circumstances every Norwegian prisoner has the right of appeal after 7 years. The courts will overrule that law somehow. This is about sending a message to others who have the same beliefs as Breivik, so we don't get a repeat of this horrific tragedy.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I agree, no media attension should be given to him.

As someone who has always been against the death penalty ... i do find it hard to justify why we should keep a guy who feels no remorse for killing 77 kids alive

 

[Aphex]

For my 2 penneth's worth, the man is obviously insane. Maybe outwardly looking ala sociopathic, but not in the sociopath sense of mentally responsible

Seeing as there is no such thing as evil (as that's a word from one of those silly religious books) he must surely be insane.

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

For my 2 penneth's worth, the man is obviously insane. Maybe outwardly looking ala sociopathic, but not in the sociopath sense of mentally responsible

Seeing as there is no such thing as evil (as that's a word from one of those silly religious books) he must surely be insane.

That means he cannot be tried in a criminal court then. After psychological examination he would be sectioned, and as soon as he was deemed "well" and fit to rejoin society, he would be freed.

 

[Aphex]

For my 2 penneth's worth, the man is obviously insane. Maybe outwardly looking ala sociopathic, but not in the sociopath sense of mentally responsible

Seeing as there is no such thing as evil (as that's a word from one of those silly religious books) he must surely be insane.

That means he cannot be tried in a criminal court then. After psychological examination he would be sectioned, and as soon as he was deemed "well" and fit to rejoin society, he would be freed.

I know what you are saying

Think the Yorkshire Ripper. He is in Broadmoor and will never be released, the same that will more than likely happen to to Breivik.

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

For my 2 penneth's worth, the man is obviously insane. Maybe outwardly looking ala sociopathic, but not in the sociopath sense of mentally responsible

Seeing as there is no such thing as evil (as that's a word from one of those silly religious books) he must surely be insane.

That means he cannot be tried in a criminal court then. After psychological examination he would be sectioned, and as soon as he was deemed "well" and fit to rejoin society, he would be freed.

I know what you are saying

Think the Yorkshire Ripper. He is in Broadmoor and will never be released, the same that will more than likely happen to to Breivik.

Truth be known you are right, he would never get out. However, if you call him mad it's an excuse to sweep the serious racial hatred problem in Norway and the rest of Europe under the carpet. The actions of a madman are irrational, but Breivik's killing spree was thought out meticulously, and his targets were chosen. It sounds exactly like religious fundamental terrorism to me.

 

[johnmc]

I agree, no media attension should be given to him.

As someone who has always been against the death penalty ... i do find it hard to justify why we should keep a guy who feels no remorse for killing 77 kids alive

But if you justify it for 77 deaths, where do you draw the line. Do you say anything over 5 murders, anything over 10? It tough but you can't justify the death penalty no matter the crime.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

For my 2 penneth's worth, the man is obviously insane. Maybe outwardly looking ala sociopathic, but not in the sociopath sense of mentally responsible

Seeing as there is no such thing as evil (as that's a word from one of those silly religious books) he must surely be insane.

That means he cannot be tried in a criminal court then. After psychological examination he would be sectioned, and as soon as he was deemed "well" and fit to rejoin society, he would be freed.

In fairness,it's probably pretty doubtful that shrinks would ever deem him fit for release,even if he was found to be not mentally culpable and a 'diminished responsibility' verdict of insanity reached.
Many psychopaths or sociopaths of this type in Britain are detained on an indeterminate sentence order,contingent to just what,if any,progress they make within Rampton,Ashworth or Broadmoor,but are highly unlikely to see freedom again,given the colossal public safety risks,so in some ways it is of little consequence whether he is viewed as mentally ill or not,other than the nature of the treatment he will receive in either a maximum security prison or a secure psychiatric unit.