Another Bellingham Saga

Prestwich_Blue said:
I did a KOTK article a while ago about the different treatment we got from Clattenburg while Thaksin was in charge and after he went. Based on our average points per game while Thaksin owned us (and had his honorary position for a while post the ADUG takeover), we should have had around 15 more points in the games he reffed after Thaksin was finally cut free.

When I went back and looked at those post-Thaksin games in more detail, you could pin that down to a number of bullshit decisions from him. Decisions like denying us a clear and obvious penalty at Chelsea in 2011, that would have put us 2-0 up, then sending off Gael Clichy and giving the penalty that saw us lose 2-1.

The Football Is Fixed guy used to infer there was a relationship between clattenburg and Thaksin, one that was allegedly somewhat more sinister than them sending each other Christmas cards. When you see how he treated us after Thaksin was ousted, you can well believe it.
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The pen for handball vs Spurs when it hit Sterling's back
Clattenburg admitted he didn't see a handball but gave the decision because Spurs players appealed for it
 
dickie davies said:
The pen for handball vs Spurs when it hit Sterling's back
Clattenburg admitted he didn't see a handball but gave the decision because Spurs players appealed for it
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Jesus forgot that was him as well.
Didn’t he also ignore the blatant shove in Raz’s back by Walker when he was clean through in the same game?
Absolutely corrupt to the core and nobody will ever convince me otherwise
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've found the article. Here's the incidents I noted:

Here are the games under his control where we may have lost points due to incorrect decisions:

  • 12 Dec 2009: Bolton 3-3 City. This was in the period when we did well in the games under him but was still a very controversial game in which Craig Bellamy was fouled and Clattenburg then produced a second yellow against him for a supposed dive. Prior to that, at half-time, Clattenburg is alleged to have asked one of Mark Hughes’ coaching team “How do you work with Bellamy all week?”
  • But here’s some of the controversial incidents involving Clattenburg that could well have cost us points since 2010:
  • 18 Sep 2011: Fulham 2-2 City. These were the only points dropped in the first 12 games of the first PL winning season. Fulham’s second goal came after a breakaway, following what appeared to be a foul on Dzeko that wasn’t given. Had it been then we probably would have got all 3 points in this game so that’s 2 possibly lost.
  • 12 Dec 2011: Chelsea 2-1 City. This was the first defeat of that season and we went ahead early on, then Silva was fouled in the area in the 15th minute. It was a clear penalty yet Clattenburg inexplicably waved play on. Chelsea won the game late on after a penalty was awarded against us for a handball by Lescott but by that time we were down to ten men, Gael Clichy having been sent off for a second yellow card early in the second half. Had we been awarded the penalty and gone 2-0 up, it seems highly likely we would have won so I’m going for 3 points lost on this.
  • 15 Sep 2012: Stoke 1-1 City. Stoke’s goal came via a close range shot from Peter Crouch but he had juggled the ball with his hands at least twice before scoring and the goal should clearly have been disallowed. Roberto Mancini claimed Crouch’s goal ‘belonged in the NBA’. A game we would have almost certainly won without their handballed goal so 2 points lost here.
  • 13 Apr 2014: Liverpool 3-2 City. The supposed title-decider at Anfield, which fortunately (no thanks to Clattenburg) didn’t decide anything. The first controversial decision came when Dzeko was fouled by Sakho in the Liverpool box late in the first half but no penalty awarded. We were already 2-0 down at this point and a penalty would have brought us back into the game at a crucial time. In the second half, having drawn level, there was further controversy when Suarez, already on a yellow card, threw himself theatrically to the floor following a challenge. He had clearly dived and Clattenburg wasn’t fooled, giving us a free kick, but he also failed to produce a second yellow. Liverpool got a third, winning goal but there was a deliberate handball by Skrtel late on which was again missed by Clattenburg. Had all those decisions gone in our favour, I believe we would have won that game and virtually settled the title race there and then. So that’s 3 points lost possibly.
  • 13 Sep 2014: Arsenal 2-2 City. After we went ahead, Arsenal scored twice, before a late Demichelis equaliser. However Pellegrini was upset with Clattenburg after the game as he felt there were fouls on City players in the build up to both Arsenal goals, although I think his case was much stronger for one than for the other. There was a clear handball in the area by Wilshere that went unpunished. We’d have certainly won this with proper refereeing so 2 points dropped.
Note: Thaksin was finally removed in early 2010 if I remember correctly.
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was he in charge when spurs got a pen when it hit Sterling’s back?
 
Kippax77 said:
He deserved a medal the lad
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The actual creator of the Vine originally had it cut to 'The Streets - Fit but You Know It' but I suggested he tag the rant with 'Parklife'. I think someone else had the same idea as well.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
So he potentially helped us get rid of Leslie earlier than he might have otherwise lasted?

A liability who has proven since he left us that he is always a poorer manager when given plenty of money to spend.

Isn't it stretching the Bertie-ness to still be angry about an event over 12 years ago that didn't get us relegated or lose a cup final o Derby game?
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No, he and anyone else is right to be angry about us being treated differently than anyone else.
 
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