Very gracious - respect to youYour recent conversion to to patriotism, based on a dislike of the Parliament you were cheering on when they were stymying Brexit is amusing. Now that that very same Parliament has passed a law you don’t like, you suddenly get a burst of affection for the union, which is still unified.
Still, despite this I’ll be a little more gracious and forgive you.
Is that the sound of your piss boiling that I can hear? lolJust pointing out your utter hypocrisy.
If you see that as anything else that’s your problem.
The only 'benefit' that could be perceived would be to use the situation for the purposes of leverage in negotiations or spite - in which case we are better off out of this 'trading union'I’ve thought about it mate, and see no benefits whatsoever, for the EU, or ourselves, to scrap reciprocal agreements in force for years.
Excellent post, the ‘Good faith’ that this organisation seemingly displays is twisted and broken whenever it suits. When we implement law that ensures they can’t prevent us trading domestically, we are portrayed by remainers (wonderfully quaint term), as evil incarnate.IM Bill implementation breaks law, not the bill. As far as 'good faith' goes the following seem slightly worse than tabling a bill in (our own) parliament. In 2017 a Canada style deal offered and also during WA negotiations which the EU have rescinded - not good faith. The Level Playing Field demands we respect 'sovereignty' of protectionist block vs ours as an actual state - not good faith. EU deals with Japan / Canada and others don't demand level playing field - but for some reason make these weird demands on us at the same time as trying to impose their regulatory framework upon us post brexit - not good faith. The EU in the WA imposed a deadline of June 2020 for arranging financial equivalence for the financial services sector - they have since decided we can't discuss this until 2021 in order to retain the leverage - not good faith.
As for international law the EU picks and chooses it seems and breaks as it sees fit. The classic example is that of them funding pro-remain campaigns and interfering in our GE in 2017. Also their arbitrary decision that law and convention on International waters/exclusive economic zones does not apply to them. They also break Intl law with their ban on US Beef imports and subsidy of Airbus. The ECJ earlier this year decided it could overrule Germanys own constitutional court with regard to an emergency EU financial package.
I'm not saying we are any better in our dealings either with the EU or around the globe, but please don't portray the EU as some innocent victim of us daring to break the holy international law just because they don't like it.
The 1.3 million are indeed mostly retired, and extremely important to the economies of the countries they reside in. They are bringing their pensions into these places, which are then spent locally, they are actively urged to buy properties, and are welcomed, because of this. Why would any country want this situation to change?couple of things you need to recognise
1/ what you see as spite is what the EU see as negotiating tools - like the UK does with fishing
2/ 3.6m EU citizens in the UK - the majority are productive and working - 1.3m UK citizens in the EU - probably most are elderly and retired. If you're hinting at forced repatriations that would mean we and our health services lose.
We've exchanged the certainty of reciprocal health care in 27 countries for discretionary arrangements with individual countries. Even for UK citizens who are resident, let alone holidaymakers, this is the new official reality:Before the Common Market was joined, reciprocity was in effect, if this changes, you can remind me when it does.
‘Possibly.’We've exchanged the certainty of reciprocal health care in 27 countries for discretionary arrangements with individual countries. Even for UK citizens who are resident, let alone holidaymakers, this is the new official reality:
"In view of this uncertainty, UK-insured individuals living in the EU should be ready for possible permanent changes to how they access healthcare."
Don't pretend this is not a bad thing.
When I hear that a country refuses to trade with us, based on the angst of Europhiles upset at a Sovereign Parliaments actions, we can discuss this further.
Crazy. This is about new uncertainties.‘Possibly.’
The amount of possible’s and probables that have been put up as certainties on here never ends.
‘Possibly.’
The amount of possible’s and probables that have been put up as certainties on here never ends.