Another new Brexit thread

[Saddleworth2]

I’ve been away in t’ wilderness since Tuesday last week. What’s happened? Is Johnson still PM? Are we still on track for 31st October?

 

[Saddleworth2]

Scots marching for Independence yesterday in Edinburgh......... because Brexit

That is one sad sad song. Should be banned in Scotland for all time.

 

[FlemishDuck]

I’ve been away in t’ wilderness since Tuesday last week. What’s happened? Is Johnson still PM? Are we still on track for 31st October?

Still PM. As expected he made the EU an offer they couldn't r.. accept.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I’ve been away in t’ wilderness since Tuesday last week. What’s happened? Is Johnson still PM? Are we still on track for 31st October?

Yes.

 

[lust overlord]

Interesting and slightly amusing that the pro leavers are using economists warnings of trouble in the eurozone to make a point.

I thought economists just made stuff up as they went along.

 

[blueparrot]

Yes.

He meant October 31 st this year I think.

 

[George Hannah]

Interesting and slightly amusing that the pro leavers are using economists warnings of trouble in the eurozone to make a point.I thought economists just made stuff up as they went along.

Not amusing at all, it's the principal political and economic fault line for the whole EU project. The defining fact that many of the richest countries in Europe have chosen to remain outside the eurozone (or EU completely) means the fundamental precondition for a future federal superstate has failed. Not just the UK, representing on its own 14% of the EEA wealth, but also Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Switzerland + all 6 East European member states and Turkey. The founding core cannot even support the present expansion of the currency to the debtor southern states and Italy will soon follow Greece in staging open revolt as its economy is sacrificed in favour of the dominant French and German interests.

 

[East Level 2]

I’ve been away in t’ wilderness since Tuesday last week. What’s happened? Is Johnson still PM? Are we still on track for 31st October?

Johnson is still PM and 31st October will follow 30th October. Not sure of the actual details though - Just like Johnson, his supporters and the "get it done" mob.
The next stage of negotiating new deals is going to be even more painful, something so many leavers (perhaps not the vocal ones on hear) refuse to accept.

 

[lancs blue]

The next stage of negotiating new deals is going to be even more painful, something so many leavers (perhaps not the vocal ones on hear) refuse to accept.

Not just painful but very lengthy too, while most of us just try to survive the transitional period.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Not amusing at all, it's the principal political and economic fault line for the whole EU project. The defining fact that many of the richest countries in Europe have chosen to remain outside the eurozone (or EU completely) means the fundamental precondition for a future federal superstate has failed. Not just the UK, representing on its own 14% of the EEA wealth, but also Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Switzerland + all 6 East European member states and Turkey. The founding core cannot even support the present expansion of the currency to the debtor southern states and Italy will soon follow Greece in staging open revolt as its economy is sacrificed in favour of the dominant French and German interests.

turkey would never get in the Eu because of human Rights and Erdogan ....... despite Project Fear launched by Leave Eu and Johnson (although he denies it now)





He just lies all the time .... I know he's a Tory and they all do it ... but he is the master

 

[stonerblue]

I get that.

I have a humour block on that, as I can't 'get ready' for Brexit, much as I would like to & would have liked to, if they had got a deal.through 2 years ago, but various right wing cunts are only interested in 'no deal' so I can't.

I was just reconing you were another who used to claim everything had been banjoed by 'no deal' being off the table.

Yet the EU seem to have been preparing for it, nontheless.

Them fucking adverts are so annoying.

 

[stonerblue]

You're probably not just experiencing the influx of migrants tho .... The cities in the UK are seeing population growth from rural areas... my three kids have now all left home and they have moved into towns and cities. Our village has very very few people in the 18 / 30 bracket ... we're either older or very young.

and the fact that waiting lists and infrastructure haven't kept up is the Governments fault ....

Living in central London has probably shaped west hams views on this.

 

[stonerblue]

You cannot draw breath long enough to comprehend what you are reading and consider how to post in a coherent manner. You are so keen to jump in with an insult that you don't realise how daft you make yourself look.

You want to answer what you want to answer - rather than what was posted and you are replying to - so you blunder in and spout irrelevant bollocks. I even bolded some key words in the last post to help you with your comprehension.

I am not sure whether to put you out of your misery and explain - in very simple language that even you might understand - or give you another go at reading and writing English words with the use of some comprehension?

Tell you what - I will give you a clue and see if you can apply even a tiny amount of comprehension skills:

I was utterly correct 'then' and I am undoubtedly utterly correct 'now' - absolutely consistent.

Four insults in the first para' and dripping with condescension and more insults throughout the rest of the post. Go figure...

 

[stonerblue]

Interesting and slightly amusing that the pro leavers are using economists warnings of trouble in the eurozone to make a point.

I thought economists just made stuff up as they went along.

Bloody experts.

 

[George Hannah]

turkey would never get in the Eu because of human Rights and Erdogan ....... despite Project Fear launched by Leave Eu and Johnson (although he denies it now)He just lies all the time .... I know he's a Tory and they all do it ... but he is the master

My post simply observed that Turkey is a European (albeit transcontinental) country not currently inside the eurozone and with virtually no possibility of it ever being so.

 

[BobKowalski]

My post which simply observed that Turkey is a European (albeit transcontinental) country not currently inside the eurozone and with virtually no possibility of it ever being so.

It’s in the EU’s Customs Union though. Has been for a couple of decades. Turkey also hasn’t agreed to roll over its EU trade arrangements to apply to the UK which will be an issue in a no deal Brexit.

 

[blueinsa]

Scots marching for Independence yesterday in Edinburgh......... because Brexit

Fuck all to do with Brexit and everything to do with them being fervent nationalists.

Quite amazing how that fact is ignored by those who do nothing but go on about nationalism on these threads?

 

[George Hannah]

It’s in the EU’s Customs Union though. Has been for a couple of decades. Turkey also hasn’t agreed to roll over its EU trade arrangements to apply to the UK which will be an issue in a no deal Brexit.

I read the FT articles on that too. Anyway pleased to see we're sharing an uncertain future again, has the mighty monolith shrunk overnight?

 

[Rascal]

Not amusing at all, it's the principal political and economic fault line for the whole EU project. The defining fact that many of the richest countries in Europe have chosen to remain outside the eurozone (or EU completely) means the fundamental precondition for a future federal superstate has failed. Not just the UK, representing on its own 14% of the EEA wealth, but also Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Switzerland + all 6 East European member states and Turkey. The founding core cannot even support the present expansion of the currency to the debtor southern states and Italy will soon follow Greece in staging open revolt as its economy is sacrificed in favour of the dominant French and German interests.

That is an issue, it could be solved by greater federalisation, it wont be solved as it stands.

A single currency in itself is not a bad thing, the UK uses a single currency and it has huge regional disparities. A pound in Manchester goes further than a pound in London as obviously cost of living differs. Petrol is more expensive on the Isle of Harris than it is in Hereford for logistical reasons, but the currency retains the same nominal value.

Through federalisation the southern states debt would become the central authority debt just as Scottish debt becomes Westminster debt and so on.

The fault is in the lack of federalisation not in the eurozone per se.

 

[BobKowalski]

Pleased to see we're sharing an uncertain future again, has the mighty monolith shrunk overnight?

You seem a bit dyspeptic this morning :)