He thought the party's interests were in appeasing both sides in order to get a better/softer deal and thus give the country a choice. I'm not sure why that would not have been in the country's interests.Yet Corbyn did the opposite - he even put himself before the Labour Party's interests
You spent 3 years arguing how damaging it would be and wanting another referendum.Some things go beyond what's the best economic policy. For example, it's not usually economically a great idea to go to war, but unfortunately sometimes you just have to. If we have voted to leave the EU, then leave we must and if it's economically damaging then we will have to accept that and deal with it.
From my perspective, (May) she's behaved like a Leaver pretty much throughout. She's steadfastly and devoutly stuck to the mission of taking us out, no matter the damage and at any cost. Whilst at the same time not even entertaining the possibility that maybe just maybe there's no majority in favour of this any more and perhaps we might want to consider whether another referendum might be appropriate. She bangs on about the will of the (17m) people, never giving a thought to the 16m who opposed it and the 30m others who didn't vote at all. I'm convinced she's a closet leaver.
Most people will not care - about the people whose lives get ruined. Well done.There won’t be any unrest. We don’t do that sort of stuff over here, not compared to a France.
Most people will give up caring soon enough.
Apathy is intrinsic to psyche of the British.
I wonder how corbyn/labour would have done if he'd have assumed a much firmer position - either all out remain/revoke, or kept hold of some of the traditional labour vote by going all out leave? I'm guessing either would have been more successful in the GE.He thought the party's interests were in appeasing both sides in order to get a better/softer deal and thus give the country a choice. I'm not sure why that would not have been in the country's interests.
Resigning as leader would certainly have been in the party's interest.
I'll take being caring as a compliment. Thank you.Not Vic, though...
Trump's made his mind up. Nowt to do with you or me.Its not 'inevitable' though is it? - Unless you have already made your mind up I suppose...
I actually think we'll get a short term good deal out of him as he'll want to do his mates Boris and Nigel a favour and put one over on liberal/left-wing ney-sayers. Longer term I'm sure you are correct and the 'special relationship ' will not benefit the junior partner.Trump's made his mind up. Nowt to do with you or me.
You mean we'll be leaving the EU with a manky deal or no deal before we have a deal with the USA...Trump won’t be there.
You mean we'll be leaving the EU with a manky deal or no deal before we have a deal with the USA...
And your point is what exactly?You spent 3 years arguing how damaging it would be and wanting another referendum.
I wonder how corbyn/labour would have done if he'd have assumed a much firmer position - either all out remain/revoke, or kept hold of some of the traditional labour vote by going all out leave? I'm guessing either would have been more successful in the GE.
You think it’ll take over 4 years to get a deal with the Yanks?I’m saying by the time we’ll come to negotiate with the US, Trump will not be President.
Nothing more, nothing less.
You think it’ll take over 4 years to get a deal with the Yanks?
Can’t see how he can’t win in 2020 to be honest.Yes but that’s secondary to that Trump will be gone soon.
You moved on 3 years after the referendum and then only because you thought a Corbyn government would be worse for the economy than Brexit.And your point is what exactly?
I wanted to remain, we lost. I moved on. What of it.
Can’t see how he can’t win in 2020 to be honest.
You moved on 3 years after the referendum and then only because you thought a Corbyn government would be worse for the economy than Brexit.
A bit of a reach to blame a possible hard brexit on corbyn! I heard similar logic after he stood almost alone on not bombing Syria - some said he caused us to bomb Syria by taking that stance and therefore polarising opinion!Hindsight is indeed 20/20
And it clearly shows how self-serving Corbyn was
Any hard Brexit outcome will be largely on him
Good grief. You said "If we have voted to leave the EU, then leave we must and if it's economically damaging then we will have to accept that and deal with it" and thus you "moved on". It took you three years to accept it and move on and you now want to make some moral argument out of your latterday conversion. Welcome to Johnsonworld.Only partly true. I'd already been coming around to the realisation that this wasn't going to ever go away unless / until we left.
But let me throw you a bone and say Ok let's suppose what you say above is true. So what?