You never came back to me after insulting me the other night.
You should have, rather howling at the moon.
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You never came back to me after insulting me the other night.
You should have, rather howling at the moon.
Then discuss the question Javid asked.Sorry - your blinkedness makes you divert the posts of others - as you have been doing here with mine
You are, IMO, babbling in an echo chamber that has nothing to do with the points I was/am making
Happy to discuss any points you want - when you re-join the world of relevance
I can't remember what point you were making and as usual you can't be arsed saying (that's if you remember). Wasn't it trying to make out that someone was still not accepting we're leaving - by quoting him from over a month ago (then making up something he hadn't said)?
Perhaps Robbins might have got the deal that Johnson got - if Johnson hadn't previously said no British Conservative government could or should sign up to any such arrangement.Indeed - well said
Robins was utterly incompetent - scandalous that he was acting on behalf of the UK
Javid putting down markers for exactly the sort of Brexit he warned about - before he lost his principles or his common sense or both.
FFS fellas - the die is cast now - we are leaving - time to start supportimg the UK in negotiations rather than the EUIts the candid admission that not all businesses will benefit that gets me - after a referendum campaign in which Leave told us everything and everybody will be better when we Leave. We are down for a No Deal Brexit if that attitude persists. If we reject all alignment out of hand thats something that all the remaining 27 will never agree to - some people are going to look in the kennel and see instead of that big fierce dog that they thought we had to frighten the world that we have been sold a pup.
I was saying Robbins was an incompetent years ago - do try and keep upReally? If you go back to the beginning of all this the lack of trained people to negotiate wasn't a problem...we were Britain... they need us more than we needed them .... now all of a sudden when it looks like its not what was suggested then all of a sudden its the civil servants fault.....those who made the case...who'd have thought that would be the case?
I make points - you reply distracting on to what you want to post about - it is your usual approach and it is a long time since there was any value in exchanging posts with youThen discuss the question Javid asked.
I can't remember what point you were making and as usual you can't be arsed saying (that's if you remember). Wasn't it trying to make out that someone was still not accepting we're leaving - by quoting him from over a month ago (then making up something he hadn't said)?
Sorry - my bad - I should have said:
"Happy to discuss any points you want - when you re-join the world of relevance and have addressed the points that I have made in the posts that you have replied to and distracted from"
These days it seems as if another poster has control of your account - one of those that have only ever howled at the moon for 3 years and posted crap
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You really should start supporting the UK.Perhaps Robbins might have got the deal that Johnson got - if Johnson hadn't previously said no British Conservative government could or should sign up to any such arrangement.
Help me out. I didn't understand "We have contingency plans in place as it mainly affects UK stockholding". You don't expect to be stocking more in the UK, do you? Or yes you do because you can't trust getting stuff through customs so easily? (Or is it financial stockholding?)Here's a thing for you to chew on.
I am the sole UK employee for a large German speciality chemicals company and all the products I sell are manufactured in Germany. Do my German bosses want Brexit? Absolutely not. Will they withdraw from the very profitable UK market if there is no deal and we end up on WTO terms? Again absolutely not as they sell to lots of markets outside of the EU. We have contingency plans in place as it mainly affects UK stockholding.
The fact is even no deal is not a deal breaker.
BTW..at a meeting in Germany in December one of my bosses told me that the EU was the best thing that had happened to Europe in 1000 years :)
Sounds like a few on here
And I certainly don't understand why you work for a company with such a global-minded outlook that's so in love with the EU that you hate.
I really can't imagine you in negotiations. "These are all my demands. I will not listen to yours unless you respond to all mine."I make points - you reply distracting on to what you want to post about - it is your usual approach and it is a long time since there was any value in exchanging posts with you
Sorry - my bad - I should have said:
"Happy to discuss any points you want - when you re-join the world of relevance and have addressed the points that I have made in the posts that you have replied to and distracted from"
These days it seems as if another poster has control of your account - one of those that have only ever howled at the moon for 3 years and posted crap
I just don't plough through your essays and respond at the same length. And you use that to refuse to engage with a simple question (not even mine - Javid's from before he went Brexit bonkers).
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I am. I'm still trying to prevent economic damage to the UK that would be done by our walking off a trading cliff at the end of the year.You really should start supporting the UK.
FFS fellas - the die is cast now - we are leaving - time to start supportimg the UK in negotiations rather than the EU
We've had "Let's get Brexit done". The new slogan is "Let's make the most of a bad job".
And instead most Leavers (including Remainers now holding unprincipled positions of power) seem content not even to do that. Javid is going along with policies that he knows will damage UK interests. If I were charitable, I'd say that he and others (probably including Johnson) have had some revelation to explain how they now believe the opposite of what they believed before this mess started, but I'm not charitable - they are either mad, bad, or dangerous to know. Please don't tell me Javid is just saying all this as a negotiating ploy.
Edit: don't bother with why Javid is saying what he's saying. In the Johnson thread Ardwick posted a Guardian article about his control of the cabinet and it includes the explanation for Javid's recent speech:
"Even before Johnson’s ultimatum to his cabinet, unity was strengthened by ministers’ desire to keep their posts in next month’s reshuffle. In a sign of Johnson’s power after his decisive election victory, tensions with both chancellor Sajid Javid and Northern Ireland secretary Julian Smith are said to have dissipated, with Downing Street now in a commanding position."
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journolud
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FFS fellas - the die is cast now - we are leaving - time to start supportimg the UK in negotiations rather than the EU
A strange stance if you don’t mind me saying. It is the government’s responsibility now to negotiate the best deal on behalf of the uk and our right to hold them to account should they fail to do so. We might differ in our views as to what represents the best deal but unqualified support for “the uk” as though it’s a football team is nonsense and irrelevant. It’s out of our hands and the negotiating team doesn’t need cheerleaders
Ardwick Green Blue
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Help me out. I didn't understand "We have contingency plans in place as it mainly affects UK stockholding". You don't expect to be stocking more in the UK, do you? Or yes you do because you can't trust getting stuff through customs so easily? (Or is it financial stockholding?)
And I certainly don't understand why you work for a company with such a global-minded outlook that's so in love with the EU that you hate.
We currently hold stock in the UK as well as delivering large orders directly from Germany. The only difference if we have no deal and trade on WTO terms is that we will need a bonded warehouse so we have one lined up as a contingency.
I am not anti European but merely anti EU.
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HA! Fat chance of that.FFS fellas - the die is cast now - we are leaving - time to start supportimg the UK in negotiations rather than the EU
They all now are on TeamEU; they want the country to fail, ironically are willng for job losses, all so they can say they were right all along and then beg to rejoin the EU. It always makes me chuckle when I see them lying about "caring about people losing their jobs". They need mass job losses to happen otherwise they can no longer present the idea of brexit as a failed endeavour.
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HA! Fat chance of that.
They all now are on TeamEU; they want the country to fail, ironically are willng for job losses, all so they can say they were right all along and then beg to rejoin the EU. It always makes me chuckle when I see them lying about "caring about people losing their jobs". They need mass job losses to happen otherwise they can no longer present the idea of brexit as a failed endeavour.
What a silly post.
With all my heart I hope I am wrong about what I think is going to happen to this country. If I am wrong I will be delighted to come on here and rejoice at my own misjudgment.
I am not interested in being right. This is not a game ffs.
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Yeah, right.What a silly post.
With all my heart I hope I am wrong about what I think is going to happen to this country. If I am wrong I will be delighted to come on here and rejoice at my own misjudgment.
I am not interested in being right. This is not a game ffs.
Nothing you have said in three years displays that sentiment whatsoever.
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While I've never voted conservative in my life, I have to admit Boris and his cronies are demonstrating good leadership by giving everyone something to buy into. Brexiteers get brexit, a bit of a light show, and a pound-shop churchill speech from BJ on brexit day, which avoids the divisive triumphalism of big ben going bong and farage having a street party. Pissed off remainers are thus not futher goaded, and get their own 'win' from Javid admitting not everyone will be better off after brexit - missing entirely the point that not everyone would be better off in any situation. Such a utopia does not exist. It's a clever if slightly manipulative approach which avoids civil war in the UK, and probably minimises how much we annoy our European friends too.
journolud
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HA! Fat chance of that.
They all now are on TeamEU; they want the country to fail, ironically are willng for job losses, all so they can say they were right all along and then beg to rejoin the EU. It always makes me chuckle when I see them lying about "caring about people losing their jobs". They need mass job losses to happen otherwise they can no longer present the idea of brexit as a failed endeavour.
On the contrary I think people like you want that to be true so that you can further entrench your position on the “right” and “winning “ side. Don’t expect remainers to suddenly think Brexit is a good idea. Most of us are just waiting for it to unfold now and hoping that it isn’t a disaster
Why would I adopt such a position in negotiations? - that is just another irrelevant distraction by you from the point I am makingI really can't imagine you in negotiations. "These are all my demands. I will not listen to yours unless you respond to all mine."
I just don't plough through your essays and respond at the same length. And you use that to refuse to engage with a simple question (not even mine - Javid's from before he went Brexit bonkers).
Re your second point - you admit that you reply to my posts without reading them - that explains why so often your own posts are irrelevant to the point being made in the post that you are replying to
What is the point of you replying to anyone's posts if it is not to address the points made therein - but simply to distract away from their points to seek to have discussed ones you prefer.
Seems a pretty poor way to behave on a forum IMO - as I have said it has rendered you increasingly less worth interacting with
stonerblue
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How exactly could my support manifest itself?FFS fellas - the die is cast now - we are leaving - time to start supportimg the UK in negotiations rather than the EU
stonerblue
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Well said.What a silly post.
With all my heart I hope I am wrong about what I think is going to happen to this country. If I am wrong I will be delighted to come on here and rejoice at my own misjudgment.
I am not interested in being right. This is not a game ffs.
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