Saddleworth2
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I find the Guardian to be amongst the more reliable papers albeit not perfect by any means.
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I don't think that I have ever seen a post from @Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese where he has been anything other than right
So I will defer to that
Good news here for the UK and in The Guardian so it must be true.
Covid and Brexit could see UK manufacturers bringing it all back home
Up to £4.8bn worth of goods for British retailers can be made locally, says reportwww.theguardian.com
Hmmmm
Now this will make a difference.............
Certainly will be different to seeing the EU using UK contributions to promise investments in the manufacturing capability of its new or potential members - leading to the loss of manufacturing in the UK
But that detail is of nothing compared with the need to investigate the governance issue at the Guardian that allowed this news to be reported without appropriate spin.
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It is strange how he has seemingly been unable to discern that I have no interest or intention in engaging with him, nor do I consider how I dealt/am dealing with a commitment to other posters to be any concern of his
I should learn that I can be too subtle - it has been a cross that I have had to bear for many years
I find it quite amusing to observe your desperation to engage with me - even by 3rd party/proxy - perhaps I should be flattered
Of course you are wrong - again
Read again my posts to you on the 3rd and see if you can work out why you are wrong?
Re being quiet for a fortnight??
Well - it could be because:
a) you are right and I was hiding - for fear of being exposed by the mighty keyboard warrior that you are, or
b) I simply couldn't be arsed and followed the sensible path of so many other Leave posters on here and gave into the pack by sacking off the thread for a while or
c) My absence was triggered by the impending lockdown being announced that required me to focus on some urgent matters which also required me to be elsewhere
To help with your analysis - dids was 50% right
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Fuck - you know your cars - I had never heard of one
Caused me to google the price - £ouch
Saddleworth2
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Not really. I am a Porscheophile though.
Ha Ha - TBF I did not know of the Bruges Group until you pointing it out just now. I am not one of those on here that are 'political activists' - my only real concern on this subforum is Brexit
Of course I heard of Major describing a group as 'bastards' but did not know of the link
I described it as being balanced because - well it read like a balanced article to me.
So the reality must be that my views on Major (and Blair) on the subject of the EU and their contempt for UK voters - are somewhat less balanced than this group;-)
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bluethrunthru
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Steve " Barking Mad" Baker earlier today - did not want a cost benefit analysis on Brexit that he rabidly supports but now wants one on lockdown........ he also says its something that is against the his rights under the European Convention on Human Rights - which as a rabid Brexiteer he also wants repealed - is he being ironic?
Saddleworth2
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That would place you to the right of the Bruges Group. Did you not claim yesterday you weren’t a Tory?
I probably won't - well not in the way you mean. and - Sorry - you don't get to decide what I know and think.
FWIW - what I think that I know is that we are already now way beyond securing the level of benefits from leaving the EU than the level I was soooo very concerned about when we were in the dark days of facing the May/Robbins unfettered backstop and PD. As I posted many times - I would prefer to Remain over that prospect
And....
We are also already way past the point of what I felt could ever be achieved during those many years since the early 90's when I started to be sure that the UK needed to leave the EU - but never thought that we would be allowed
Soooooo
from my POV the future of the UK is already secured as being better than if we were to Remain in the EU - and that is because of what is to come for the EU rather than what has gone before
So it is already a win for me - and if Johnson can be kept from undermining Frost in these final stages - we may get a lot more.
So - yes I may blame Johnson for reducing the potential gains in the end stage - but had things not come about as they did last Summer and if he had not been able to be influenced by proper Leavers then we would not be in a win situation at this point anyway.
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Ha Ha - I am more balanced than you are suggesting - apart from one subject
Was Benn a Tory?
Is Corbyn a Tory?
Is @Rascal a Tory
etc.
You don't need to be a Tory to know that it is absolutely in the best interests of the UK to not be part of a fully federated EU
You have also demonstrated, IMO, - at least on this subject, but not on others I have noticed - that you have a closed mind.
You pop on the thread every now and then and make some limited comment - generally to criticise me and then pop off again for a few weeks and then - rinse and repeat.
I will never have failed to get past the first para of one of your posts on Brexit because I do not think that you have ever done any paras
Just my personal opinion - but that is the only one that I have
...............these are genuine questions - seeking a yes/no answer
1. No matter what others may think - do you @bluethrunthru genuinely believe that you have and demonstrate to have an open mind on the topic of Brexit?
2. No matter what others may think - do you @bluethrunthru genuinely believe that you have and demonstrate to have an open mind on the topic of the Conservative Party?
3. No matter what others may think - do you @bluethrunthru genuinely believe that you have and demonstrate to have an open mind on the topic of the Covid political thread?
4. No matter what others may think - do you @bluethrunthru genuinely believe that you have and demonstrate to have an open mind on the topic of any other thread on the subforum?
Please - I would be genuinely interested to hear your views of your own level of open-mindedness
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Getting 5 tags in one post from one poster must be some sort of record for neediness.
Getting 5 tags in one post from one poster must be some sort of record for neediness.
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blueinsa
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Dont worry, it will be ignored on this thread and the majority of this forum.
Bad news only if you dont fucking mind.........
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Dont hold your breath ;-)
west didsblue
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No it’s good news that some companies are ramping up UK production in certain areas, which will help with the downturn in other areas. Whether the main factor is Covid or Brexit remains to be seen. I won’t write off Brexit as a factor like you lot do every time there’s bad news though.
Very good news, apart from higher prices for clothing.Good news here for the UK and in The Guardian so it must be true.
Covid and Brexit could see UK manufacturers bringing it all back home
Up to £4.8bn worth of goods for British retailers can be made locally, says report
I'm quite jealous.
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