Another new Brexit thread

[Ancient Citizen]

Indeed - there will be a few 'Japanese snipers' holding out in their denial - but they will become fewer and less relevant as they 'howl at the moon'

The majority will just get on with their lives

I wonder what happened to that bellowing fruitcake who was dressed in EU regalia outside parliament?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

That reads to me that you are accepting that Germany and France are the real power brokers in the EU and have levels of control over the EU. Well done for that candour - others dodge that truth

Indeed, and to condense that control to its purest form, it's Mutti
who's the boss.

 

[Vic]

I wonder what happened to that bellowing fruitcake who was dressed in EU regalia outside parliament?

Assaulted in the street by someone who thought he was a bellowing fruitcake.

 

[Chris in London]

F
I may regret asking but why do people expect the disputes mechanisms of such trade deals to be more acceptable than the ECJ (while we were EU members)? It will still be foreign judges.

What's the take on ISDS if we attempt to join CPTPP?

Did anyone actually answer this question?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Nicely for you mate.
You would be among the majority of Brexit voters who were happy with more sovereignty and no deal with any deal being a bonus (even if it was a bit shit).
But the referendum result was a narrow victory and I'd wager that at least a quarter of leave voters thought we would be better off or at least no worse off after brexit which is not the case with this deal.
That would explain why there appears to be Brexit buyers regret in the country.

Brexit buyers regret?!!
Lol, there are delusions, and wishful thinking, if either are now relevant,
but that takes the biscuit.
Save your money with that wager mate.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Why haven't they signed up for Erasmus?

Because we can source our own shaving foam.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

It seems as though not being under ECJ jurisdiction and replacing it with an equivalent is enough for some.

How on earth do you figure that out?
Would you want a referee chosen by the Rags when we play them?

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

How on earth do you figure that out?
Would you want a referee chosen by the Rags when we play them?

I give you Anthony Taylor

 

[peter.evans]

Spot on! These Remainers really are the turd that just won't flush.

Deary me !

 

[west didsblue]

Spot on! These Remainers really are the turd that just won't flush.

From your only previous visit to the thread it was Labour supporters you had a problem with.

What do you think of Labour Leavers and Tory Remainers?

Or are you too stupid to realise that there is such a thing?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Rather than being some sort of miracle achieved by our negotiating team, the deal itself was actually quite easily struck as we've had to cave given our weaker hand. It was just easier to delay so the detail couldn't be scrutinised by parliament.

Quite easily struck? The revisionism here is breathtaking, we did not cave,
Macron was insisting on complete access to waters up until the death, and what, exactly, is in the detail that hasn't been scrutinised?
Despite years of being told we'd get Jack shit from the EU, we're now out the SM, CU and ECJ, we have a free trade deal, and can now strike deals wherever, and with whoever we like, all of which was not possible before.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

It really isn’t finished, it’s got years to go. Maybe not as brexit. Maybe call it The latest new deal thread.

Why, what are we discussing now with the EU, and why is it going to take years?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

It's all he has. Fuck knows why he's on a City football forum.

Especially when everything he's wanted has never happened, I'd be well
pissed off by now, lol.

 

[blueparrot]

Quite easily struck? The revisionism here is breathtaking, we did not cave,
Macron was insisting on complete access to waters up until the death, and what, exactly, is in the detail that hasn't been scrutinised?
Despite years of being told we'd get Jack shit from the EU, we're now out the SM, CU and ECJ, we have a free trade deal, and can now strike deals wherever, and with whoever we like, all of which was not possible before.

But what's better than we had, you never did get back with things in everyday life that are a little better. My things that are a little worse than we already had list is looking very one sided.

 

[blueparrot]

Why, what are we discussing now with the EU, and why is it going to take years?

Services, to kick off with. Then we'll start ammending and adding to this ground floor deal. Even Johnson is saying that. Then Fishing is still to be re negotiated.Unless you think everything this covers will be perfect, no mistakes and nothing will need changing ever again.

 

[west didsblue]

Quite easily struck? The revisionism here is breathtaking, we did not cave,
Macron was insisting on complete access to waters up until the death, and what, exactly, is in the detail that hasn't been scrutinised?
Despite years of being told we'd get Jack shit from the EU, we're now out the SM, CU and ECJ, we have a free trade deal, and can now strike deals wherever, and with whoever we like, all of which was not possible before.

I would say being outside the SM, CU and ECJ as having jack shit, not some sort of prize handed out by them.

We’ve got a Canada style FTA as long as we retain a LPF, and if we don’t tariffs are introduced. Yes we’ve got jack shit from the EU and we’re giving them nearly as many of our fish as they’ve always had. We’re also paying for access to programs we want to stay part of.

Looking forward to the new trade deals that aren’t inferior rollovers like Japan. Are any in the pipeline?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I am a city fan because my dad and family were and my dad took me to maine road in the 70s and 80s and told me if I ever supported united he would put me up for adoption.
the eu never really came into it to be fair.

An older cousin first took me well before that, I'd never seen so many people
before. Maine Road was rammed, we were playing the Rags, who we beat 3-0.
And your father was obviously a pacifist, mine would have fucking drowned me.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

An older cousin first took me well before that, I'd never seen so many people
before. Maine Road was rammed, we were playing the Rags, who we beat 3-0.
And your father was obviously a pacifist, mine would have fucking drowned me.

did you discuss the eu that day with your cousin when you first went to Maine road ?

 

[mcfc1632]

Brexit buyers regret?!!
Lol, there are delusions, and wishful thinking, if either are now relevant,
but that takes the biscuit.
Save your money with that wager mate.

LOL - it speaks volumes that it is Remainers that seem to be queuing up to tell Leavers that we must be disappointed and regretful - whilst we Leavers seem quite content and relaxed

No change there I guess - they have been telling us what we should think for 4 years

The BBC has an article that some of them might benefit from:

Brexit: Advice for people who can't move on - BBC News​

 

[Ancient Citizen]

i remember when we all met in London to get our story and arguments straight for bluemoon and mcfc1632 did a speech which lasted 6 hours .

Yeah, that was great, the after show party with those strippers was ace.