Another shooting in america

acquiesce said:
Bluemoon115 said:
Rascal said:
And now a nutjob has killed 2 firemen.

I just despair mate
Maybe if the firetrucks had been loaded with guns instead of rescue equipment, this whole thing could have been avoided.

Guns aren't the problem with gun crime, they are the solution.

Agreed. We should just start painting tanks red and using them. Once blast of a good howitzer would put the fire out.

Ah, the old reductio ad absurdum argument - sign of a true intellect.
 
ElanJo said:
Blue Hefner said:
ElanJo said:
It's worth pointing out that gun related violence have been declining in the US.

It's not as if dozens of people are being gunned down in the streets every day.

And this tragedy would have occurred anyway despite the policy changes most gun control advocates push for.

So, yet again, another tragedy ends up being used by most (belonging to both sides) to push their own agenda.

It's quite sickening to see.

In 2011 there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms.

That stat would suggest people are being gunned down every day

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... e-us-state</a>


Yes, there are shootings every day but that wasn't my point.

I'm talking about mass shootings which seems to be the only thing that people get worked up about. They're rare and barely make up a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

There are much bigger and much more solvable problems in the US. Some of which contribute heavily towards their homicide statistics.
Interesting definition of the term "rare" that you have.
 
GUN SALES SET HITS RECORD OF 16.8 MILLION BACKGROUND CHECKS

Press TV: US gun sales have hit a record level and with the latest mass killing, stores are running out of stock as significant sales tops is being reported on assault rifles. During the first eleven months of this year, the FBI has conducted 16.8 million background checks, breaking last year’s record of 16.5 million not including the current sales hikes after the Connecticut school massacre.

“We are seeing a total madhouse of buying everything in sight,” said one gun storeowner in Las Vegas on Friday, adding, “We have not only a run on the guns, but a run on ammunition.”

The largest retailer of guns and ammunition in the US, the Walmart, has reported that several semiautomatic guns are sold out at various locations around the country.

The Walmart, which forbids sales of profane music, stocks the criticized assault firearm, AR-15, used at both mass killings in Aurora, Colorado and Newtown, Connecticut.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk7z6q7uCVc[/youtube]

There's also a White House petition to deport Piers Morgan that's reached 60,000 signatures, after that rant on CNN.
 
SWP's back said:
ElanJo said:
Blue Hefner said:
In 2011 there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms.

That stat would suggest people are being gunned down every day

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... e-us-state</a>


Yes, there are shootings every day but that wasn't my point.

I'm talking about mass shootings which seems to be the only thing that people get worked up about. They're rare and barely make up a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

There are much bigger and much more solvable problems in the US. Some of which contribute heavily towards their homicide statistics.
Interesting definition of the term "rare" that you have.

You know , I think he's right. There was me thinking that mums having semi-automatic assault rifles in the house was a problem. I feel foolish.
 
The funny thing is they want to deport Piers for arguing against the 2nd amendment and ignore that he was simply exercising his rights under the 1st amendment the thick fat ignorant gun toting cunts.
 
Unknown_Genius said:
There's also a White House petition to deport Piers Morgan that's reached 60,000 signatures, after that rant on CNN.

... and there's are 70,000 one in the UK opposing it.


*Although, for once, I agree with Piers on this one*
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
Unknown_Genius said:
There's also a White House petition to deport Piers Morgan that's reached 60,000 signatures, after that rant on CNN.

... and there's are 70,000 one in the UK opposing it.


*Although, for once, I agree with Piers on this one*

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Deport British Citizen Piers Morgan for Attacking 2nd Amendment

British Citizen and CNN television host Piers Morgan is engaged in a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment. We demand that Mr. Morgan be deported immediately for his effort to undermine the Bill of Rights and for exploiting his position as a national network television host to stage attacks against the rights of American citizens.

<a class="postlink" href="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-british-citizen-piers-morgan-attacking-2nd-amendment/prfh5zHD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... t/prfh5zHD</a>

Talk about going OTT.
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
SWP's back said:
ElanJo said:
Yes, there are shootings every day but that wasn't my point.

I'm talking about mass shootings which seems to be the only thing that people get worked up about. They're rare and barely make up a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

There are much bigger and much more solvable problems in the US. Some of which contribute heavily towards their homicide statistics.
Interesting definition of the term "rare" that you have.

You know , I think he's right. There was me thinking that mums having semi-automatic assault rifles in the house was a problem. I feel foolish.

Reductio ad absurdum again - when will you lefties learn that this style of arguing makes you look very foolish?
 
Johnsonontheleft said:
Hamann Pineapple said:
SWP's back said:
Interesting definition of the term "rare" that you have.

You know , I think he's right. There was me thinking that mums having semi-automatic assault rifles in the house was a problem. I feel foolish.

Reductio ad absurdum again - when will you lefties learn that this style of arguing makes you look very foolish?
Idiot, that was the situation in the latest shooting.
 

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