Anti depressants..

[nw42]

Finding the right doctor is sometimes hard but you can go to see one of the older ones and ask if there is anyone at the surgery has an interest in mental health,things have moved on and mental health is much more understood,try again for me would you

I will Karen, got to do something and today has been quite a step forward, it would be a shame to just box it all up again.

5 HTP and B12 have done wonders for me. I also take ashwaganda to help me sleep. Miles better than anti bloody depressants. For me sorting my sleep out was key - once I started going to bed at 10:00pm and sleeping for 8 hours so many other issues went away.

Sleep is a major issue for me, my job means I get up at 23.00, out to work after a brew, I get in about 4/4.30 am and sometimes have a kip, or watch a film, but in the main I just sleep when I feel the need. I suffer with restless leg syndrome, anyone who has that knows how difficult it can sometimes be to actually fall asleep, lying there for 2 or 3 hours unable to drop off is not uncommon.

I'm actually now thinking that the reason I was prescribed Sertraline was for the RSL rather than any sort of depression, either way I didn't like it. Will definitely research the stuff you mention, thanks.

Another honest post mate. Sorry to hear about how things have been, it must be very difficult for you. I can empathize in understanding having been in a place you feel you are now.

I don't know where you live but there are is free counselling available where you are I would think. MIND offer counselling and guidance, there are others perhaps others will mention. All these type of places are there to help. I went to the one on Katherine st in Ashton about 3 months ago. I dropped in, had a nice chat with a very helpful lady. She listened (not a counsellor as such) and booked me to see a counsellor. I basically told her about the spells of depression I'd previously suffered, and where I was at the time of speaking to her. I knew/she knew I was teetering on the edge, or maudlin and feeling is perhaps more apt thinking about it. As MIND is charity funded, she said I would have to wait a few weeks, but if I wanted to pay, idI be seen a lot sooner. Truth is I knew I was in control of myself so I said I didn't mind waiting. I got a call recently from them asking how i was and if I still wanted to see a counsellor. I told her i was feeling a whole lot better and politely declined counselling.

l know what you mean about newbies fresh out of Uni with zero actual experience of what textbook knowledge they have. It's not their fault but a good counsellor knows what hymn sheet you're singing from having been there themselves. I have and charge nowt for my services, but a beer is always welcome; )

As for being sectioned, hmm, I doubt it, your posts in here seem plausible and compos mentis. I have been sectioned and trust me, I was a paranoid schizophrenic with anxiety that reduced me to a jibbering wreck , brought on from a copious cocktail of drugs and drink in my early 20s over 30 years ago. Maybe your daily cannabis intake for so long is a contributing somewhat to this? I think there is TBH, but I'm no expert.

I only have a very occasional spliff nowadays, and never touched LSD or mushies since sectioned. Alcohol I can take or leave really. I like a beer but I can't cope without tea. That's where I am, but having said that getting merrily drunk in good company is good for one's soul.

More important on staying sane keeping your seretonin spirit level bubble even is to look after yourself, and ONLY YOU can do this .

Eating healthy, regular sleep and excercise are essential to equilibrium of snuffing one's demons out.

You are almost certainly correct re the long term effects of the toking but at least I've kicked that one into touch now, so not doing any further damage, as for booze, wouldn't bother me if I never touched a drop again, so definitely no problem there.

One thing I am very conscious of today is that I don't want to sound like I'm playing the victim, all my troubles are of my own making, receiving sympathy is something I've never been comfortable with, I don't dole it out unless I'm 100% certain it's justified so I feel equally about receiving it.

As for the sleep, see above, exercise, well I'm a milkman and am fitter than I have been since I was a teenager, I treat my round like a military operation, if for whatever reason I'm running a little late I just run faster to make sure I'm finished at the same time, bit of nutter in that respect really but at least it doesn't impact on anyone else.

I used to think for a living, was a debt counsellor and took a real pride in my job, never given duff advice and always tried to empathise with the client, although I don't miss the industry I do miss the aspect of helping people through their personal hell and showing them a brighter future, that was always more rewarding than the monthly pay cheque. Giving decent, honest advice didn't always work out profitable for the company and I got sick of the sell sell sell attitude, wouldn't go back to it now for love nor money.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

I will Karen, got to do something and today has been quite a step forward, it would be a shame to just box it all up again.



Sleep is a major issue for me, my job means I get up at 23.00, out to work after a brew, I get in about 4/4.30 am and sometimes have a kip, or watch a film, but in the main I just sleep when I feel the need. I suffer with restless leg syndrome, anyone who has that knows how difficult it can sometimes be to actually fall asleep, lying there for 2 or 3 hours unable to drop off is not uncommon.

I'm actually now thinking that the reason I was prescribed Sertraline was for the RSL rather than any sort of depression, either way I didn't like it. Will definitely research the stuff you mention, thanks.



You are almost certainly correct re the long term effects of the toking but at least I've kicked that one into touch now, so not doing any further damage, as for booze, wouldn't bother me if I never touched a drop again, so definitely no problem there.

One thing I am very conscious of today is that I don't want to sound like I'm playing the victim, all my troubles are of my own making, receiving sympathy is something I've never been comfortable with, I don't dole it out unless I'm 100% certain it's justified so I feel equally about receiving it.

As for the sleep, see above, exercise, well I'm a milkman and am fitter than I have been since I was a teenager, I treat my round like a military operation, if for whatever reason I'm running a little late I just run faster to make sure I'm finished at the same time, bit of nutter in that respect really but at least it doesn't impact on anyone else.

I used to think for a living, was a debt counsellor and took a real pride in my job, never given duff advice and always tried to empathise with the client, although I don't miss the industry I do miss the aspect of helping people through their personal hell and showing them a brighter future, that was always more rewarding than the monthly pay cheque. Giving decent, honest advice didn't always work out profitable for the company and I got sick of the sell sell sell attitude, wouldn't go back to it now for love nor money.

 

[FantasyIreland]

@nw42

Try a Magnesium supplement for restless legs.Make sure its a good brand with decent bioavailability,usually this means the supp will end in 'ate'

 

[Two Gun Bob]

Although I never purposely seek out this thread I always pop in for a read whenever it appears in new posts section, not sure what I'm expecting to find but it proves, to me, that I'm at least looking for something. Been in some sort of state for a good few years now, probably about 10yrs if truth be told, I did approach my GP about 4 or 5 yrs ago, was given Sertraline but they just fucked with my head, I know that's what they're supposed to do but I really didn't like the feelings, so I popped them in the bin after a few weeks and decided to plough on, never went back to docs as I didn't feel any sort of rapport to be able to open up there.

Not even sure why I've decided to post today, except that I'm feeling lower than usual this morning, shame really as I had a great day yesterday, one of my best in ages, was on a stag do and caught up with some old faces I'd not seen in years, mainly due to my reluctance to bother stepping out of the door to socialise, I've got a beautiful wife who is one of the most positive and supportive people imaginable, but I'm just draining that positivity out of her, there's only so much anyone can take I suppose.

I wouldn't class myself as suicidal but do often think how much better her life would be if I dropped dead, obviously it would be rough for her initially but she's 12yrs younger than me and would soon recover and get on with her life. Yesterday while waiting for the train they announced that one was coming through but not stopping and to stand back from the platform etc, I watched it approaching, a big fuck off goods train hammering along, not saying I wanted to jump, it was on the other side of the tracks anyway so it would have required a massive leap to have got in front of it, also I could see the driver and instantaneously thought what a twats trick it would be to do such a thing to a bloke just going about his job, so no worries, jumping in front of a train quickly got scratched.

What's getting to me this morning is the fact that such an awful thought momentarily entered my head, I could actually see why people choose this way, there's no second chance once you go that route, it takes one second and you're gone forever, no pain etc, except of course for the poor driver and the fellas who have to scrape you up.

Anyway, I carried on with the day, met up with everyone and it was brilliant, wife picked me up from the station later and had got some nice food ready but I didn't eat any of it and just went to bed, typical of me, just shunning the kind gesture with no thought for her.

The point of my post, well I think it's about time I revisited the notion of some sort of treatment, not sure if that would be meds, I'm an old school bloke, I think I'm tough enough to not require meds but the reality is I need some help, talking to the right person seems favourable but what are the chances of me being allocated the 'right' person, I did speak with a counsellor when I was given the Sertraline but there was absolutely no rapport with them, not their fault but if it's not there I'm not going to open up. I even know what I have to talk about to even begin to get through this, stuff that I've done in the past, nothing illegal but stuff that makes me not a very nice person.

Anyway, apologies for going a little off topic but I just felt like spilling a little, I just feel there are others in this thread who will maybe see a little of their own issues in what I've written and they may just have a snippet of advice that will send me in the right direction.

Sorry for the train episode, I've just read it back and it's gruesome but if I delete it then I'm not being honest, I do know enough to know that if you aren't honest then you really can't begin to get better. Not necessarily looking for help from here but you never know, someone may just have something to say that will resonate and get me moving forwards before I drive my wife away forever.

I should add for clarity, I suffered a sub-arrachnoid haemorrhage in 2010, was very lucky to recover from 7hrs surgery fully intact, although there must be fallout from that I can't really blame it for my current dilemmas, I mean I'm still the same fella, I look the same, if a little older.

Thanks anyway.

The Moon is a 24 hour All Inclusive forum and although I no longer work our late shift plenty still do.The night is a strange yet calming beast so take care Blue and hollow on out !

 

[PinkFinal]

Ketamine

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-46212154/ketamine-can-it-treat-depression

 

[Dr Jacoby]

Interesting ^^

After persistent difficulties with apathy, emotional numbness and ‘brain fog’, tomorrow I’m to see a mental health specialist for the second time in a week.

She mentioned venlafaxine and sertraline as possible treatment options but I doubt ketamine would be available to me.

 

[kaz7]

Interesting ^^

After persistent difficulties with apathy, emotional numbness and ‘brain fog’, tomorrow I’m to see a mental health specialist for the second time in a week.

She mentioned venlafaxine and sertraline as possible treatment options but I doubt ketamine would be available to me.

You are on the right track now you are seeing mental health specialists,good luck x

 

[Dr Jacoby]

You are on the right track now you are seeing mental health specialists,good luck x

Thank you :)

 

[lafitz2008]

God, I love Sertraline, it's been completely life changing for me.

A good 6 months of unreliable hard-ons and even now you couldn't hang a towel on it but the benefits it's brought has been completely worth it

 

[Dr Jacoby]

I’ve been put on Escitalopram, an SSRI, and Abilify, which is an antipsychotic. :s

Whilst I do feel a bit more connected to those around me on Abilify, it’s making my ADHD worse and Escitalopram has predictably made me rather numb and apathetic.