Anti Vax Demonstration outside South Stand

[Prestwich_Blue]

Do a little bit of research and dont take everything you hear in the media as gospel.

I'm all for doing research but some think that just means going on Facebook and finding something that suits their views. Proper research usually involves challenging your own assumptions.

 

[JASR]

well said

times have moved on since pits & wars so i dont see how we compare what is happening now to what happened then.

we are all intelligent, take time out and stop listening to the biased bbc and celebrities paid a fortune or a government that is embarrassing themselves in lies more and more. Do a little bit of research and dont take everything you hear in the media as gospel.

Luckily I have Mrs JASR to do my "research", who has access to thousands of UK doctors. A proportion of those thousands of doctors are from the relevant areas - virology & immunology, rather than just a random unrelated to the specialty Doc.

That 'Research' continues to conclude, get vaxxed, and has done since they became available, because it offers the best longterm general population health solution to covid. It's unequivocable.

My own 'research' is purely on the numbers being hospitalized/death. And again that's unequivocable: Vaxxed far less likely to be hospitalized. - And that figure came from a prominent anti-vaxxer quoting official UK figures, who was trying to argue that recently 'only' 48% of the patients in hospital due to covid are unvaxxed. Basic maths 101 failure...

So, in summary. I've 'done my research' by getting information direct from people qualified to understand virology and immunology, and direct from people who don't follow MSM, ie Anti-vaxxers, who happen to not understand basic maths.

NB This is nothing to do with how govt has acted throughout. That's an entirely different mass of questions.

 

[mexico1970]

Luckily I have Mrs JASR to do my "research", who has access to thousands of UK doctors. A proportion of those thousands of doctors are from the relevant areas - virology & immunology, rather than just a random unrelated to the specialty Doc.

That 'Research' continues to conclude, get vaxxed, and has done since they became available, because it offers the best longterm general population health solution to covid. It's unequivocable.

My own 'research' is purely on the numbers being hospitalized/death. And again that's unequivocable: Vaxxed far less likely to be hospitalized. - And that figure came from a prominent anti-vaxxer quoting official UK figures, who was trying to argue that 'only' 48% of the patients in hospital due to covid are unvaxxed. Basic maths 101 failure...

So, in summary. I've 'done my research' by getting information direct from people qualified to understand virology and immunology, and direct from people who don't follow MSM, ie Anti-vaxxers, who happen to not understand basic maths.

NB This is nothing to do with how govt has acted throughout. That's an entirely different mass of questions.

But people who don't even understand or know what the active ingredients inside the most simple tablet know better because they read it on facebook or twitter.

 

[BedsBlue68]

As a bit of context, I brought my house off a lovely couple in August, they were selling up to go travelling in France to find a rural home near their kids and have a wonderful life - in their sixties but both healthy and happy - really exciting times for them.

Both I now gather were anti-vaxers and they had to turn the life support off yesterday - he had covid. Don't listen to people who say you don't need it, you do. Government PR, opinion polls, personality and pharma profits are irrelevant - yours and your families and friends lives are.

 

[GornikDaze]

Obviously the horrors of war are nothing like this, but the way the government and the chemical companies have used Propaganda, censorship, and slivers of information to turn society on itself are.
I do not agree with your view on encouragement, sacking health workers is not encouragement that led to the closure of care Holmes that most patient moved onto the hospitals that put more stain on them, and for what COVID would and will get in no matter what the same as hospitals and schools.

Christmas has come early thankfully… Santa has reminded me to use the ignore button

 

[Blue Llama]

Justify what are you saying it did not happen? yes it is an extreme example

You are asking us to accept that pre war campaigners in Germany who risked everything standing against the National Socialists compare with idiots who will not spend an hour at most getting a pain free jab. Yes it's a choice by both but you insult the those individuals who stood against the. Natzis.

 

[metalblue]

It stops you infecting most other vaccinated people. Are you saying my being vaccinated is not that good because it doesn't stop me from infecting the unvaccinated?

Being vaccinated is a good thing - only an idiot would think otherwise.

But it really doesn’t stop you infecting “most” other vaccinated people, at least not with the delta variant. The WHO say there is some evidence of reducing the chances but that is less effective after 3 months. The primary aim of the vaccine is to stop you getting as ill, especially to the point of needing to end up in hospital - and there is very strong evidence to the effectiveness of this.

 

[Gundog’s Gundog]

My first thought was why are Aston Villa fans demonstrating at our ground

 

[berryblue]

Nobody knows how many have died from covid. We only know how many have died WITH covid. If the Government or the Scientists know they don't seem to want us to know!!

 

[xgorton]

How would you people feel about someone not having been jabed because they live in the countryside don't mix with other people except partner never goes in shops or garages,never ever goes on public transport just walks the dog in the open fields away from people.

Not many replys,think you like that don't you come on admit it.