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Rammy Blue
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frankisskint said:VillaShooter 83 said:Yeah RVP is a massive blow for them. I think he will sign a striker in Jan but wether he has money to spend is another matter.
no chance, won't stay the course same as last year, not enough top quality players.
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Didsbury Dave said:bellbuzzer said:top 4 or gone is a product of wishful thinking by the hughes-haters,hoping he fails.
No it isn't, it's a realistic viewpoint based on his length of tenure, what he inherited and what he's spent.
Spot on DD!
And BB, I aint no Hughes hater (I desperately want him to succeed - I'm sick to the back teeth of changing managers every 5 minutes), but if he doesn't get top 4 with the squad currently at his disposal, I just honestly believe the owners will change it & he'll be gone.
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Rammy Blue said:frankisskint said:Villa
no chance, won't stay the course same as last year, not enough top quality players.
I think he means they'll go in for David Villa! I may be wrong though?
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vonksbignose said:Rammy Blue said:no chance, won't stay the course same as last year, not enough top quality players.
I think he means they'll go in for David Villa! I may be wrong though?
i wouldn't have thought he was on about David Villa, more chance of me signing for Arsenal.
Disappointed ? No
Absolutely elated with what I've seen on last Wednesday and Saturday ? Yes!!
BUT, and I did say this before the 2 big games: the fact that we (again) raised our game against the top teams prompts questions about MH's ability to motivate his players.
We have a very good squad and it seems they can rise to the occasion but it also seems that when we play the lesser lights, the performance isn't as good.Why is that? In my opinion it is the manager's job to get his players "up" for every single game but I dont think this has happened in certain games.
Now that we have got past Arse and Chelsea I want to to see the same commitment and team spirit against Bolton, Stoke, Sunderland & Wolves. If we get that then we will win most of the games we play. If we don't then questions need to be asked: either of MH or the players themselves.
Absolutely elated with what I've seen on last Wednesday and Saturday ? Yes!!
BUT, and I did say this before the 2 big games: the fact that we (again) raised our game against the top teams prompts questions about MH's ability to motivate his players.
We have a very good squad and it seems they can rise to the occasion but it also seems that when we play the lesser lights, the performance isn't as good.Why is that? In my opinion it is the manager's job to get his players "up" for every single game but I dont think this has happened in certain games.
Now that we have got past Arse and Chelsea I want to to see the same commitment and team spirit against Bolton, Stoke, Sunderland & Wolves. If we get that then we will win most of the games we play. If we don't then questions need to be asked: either of MH or the players themselves.
It's interesting that the Hughes 'doubters' believe that he will go if we don't achieve top 4 this season - based on the premise that it is now attainable. Surely the very fact that a top 4 place is now thought to be possible, is because Hughes has bought well and is creating a team that everyone feels is capable of living with the top 3 or 4.
He must therefore be doing the job well! If he wasn't, the 'doubters' would be screaming that we hadn't got a cat in hells chance of finishing anywhere near the top 4.
Anyway, can't we change the subject- it's becoming so repetetive, the same old names trying to sell their 'Hughes Out' agenda.
He must therefore be doing the job well! If he wasn't, the 'doubters' would be screaming that we hadn't got a cat in hells chance of finishing anywhere near the top 4.
Anyway, can't we change the subject- it's becoming so repetetive, the same old names trying to sell their 'Hughes Out' agenda.
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CC1 said:It's interesting that the Hughes 'doubters' believe that he will go if we don't achieve top 4 this season - based on the premise that it is now attainable. Surely the very fact that a top 4 place is now thought to be possible, is because Hughes has bought well and is creating a team that everyone feels is capable of living with the top 3 or 4.
I base my opinion on what was said by Cook and Hughes before the transfer window closed, something people have conveniently forgotten. Cook said that he and MH had discussed things, and that they went to the owners and suggested that we fast forward the project, as a result we brought in more targets than was originally intended for the summer window.
Since this was well after the 'top 6' target, given at the end of last season/begining of the summer if I remember correctly, I would suggest that top 4 is the target now.
I'm delighted by the two results, and in particular the performance and result against Chelsea (Arsenal reserves isn't really a marker for me), because above the results they suggest we have finally made some progress. However I'll now be expecting the same level of performance against Bolton, and not a reversion to the performances against Burnley, Hull, Wigan, Birmingham, all of which were unacceptable, and would have been even under Stuart Pearce.
In my opinion MH isn't good enough to take us to the level we aim to be at, he'll achieve top 6 this year, possibly even top 4, but if we aim to be kings of Europe in 2 or 3 years (or even 5 for those that demand patience), I very much doubt it will be with MH still in charge, but I really hope he proves me wrong !